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  1. Chrollo
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    Dec 12, 2022
    Musical movies and TV episodes s---. They. f---ing. s---. Nobody starts randomly singing like that. It's cringe and awful and I don't get why they still are getting made
     
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  2. Ripper Roo
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    Ripper Roo It was never my responsibility.

    Dec 12, 2022
    Bro I am so tired of people putting voicemails in songs.
     
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  3. Michael Myers
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    Jan 5, 2023
    Trying something different / unique doesn't automatically make it good music
     
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  4. Ripper Roo
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    Ripper Roo It was never my responsibility.

    Jan 4, 2023
    Not sure if this is a hot take or not, but I’ll say it anyway. 90% of the time I find that “experimental music” is just low effort garbage with snobby fans that constantly say, “you just don’t get it man!!!”
     
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  5. Ordinary Joel
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    Ordinary Joel Happiness begins when selfishness ends

    Dec 15, 2022
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    Looking suave as f---, you just know if he kept his appearances he'd become the godfather of reggaeton.
     
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  6. Ripper Roo
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    Ripper Roo It was never my responsibility.

    Dec 14, 2022
    Finally some actual hot takes in here. Nice job guys
     
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  7. Ripper Roo
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    Ripper Roo It was never my responsibility.

    Dec 15, 2022
    Artists still using baby pictures or pictures from their childhood as album covers is so unoriginal and lame at this point.
     
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  8. Allis Mines
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    Allis Mines

    Dec 15, 2022
    Frank ocean is boring and overrated
     
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  9. Ricky
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    Ricky Africa!

    Dec 12, 2022
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  10. Ricky
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    Ricky Africa!

    Dec 12, 2022
    God please keep me away from this thread.

    Oh no.
     
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  11. Ripper Roo
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    Ripper Roo It was never my responsibility.

    Dec 11, 2022
    Sound off here about any hot takes you have about music or the music industry in general.

    I’ll start with one that isn’t necessarily a hot take in general but is definitely a hot take on this forum: hip hop is better and more versatile today than it ever has been and older rap is massively overrated.
     
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  12. DKC
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    DKC shortygonletmecrush

    Jan 6, 2023
    In terms of Whole Lotta Red — when I say not everyone is going to "get it" or like it because it was more experimental, that's not meant as an insult, it's just a fact. It's not for everyone and that's fine. I think when people say it's "awful" as in it has zero value and someone responds with "well it's experimental, you might not get it" I think that's more of a knee-jerk response to someone saying it's flat-out terrible. Obviously some people mean that in a snobby way but for me it's just like "OK you don't like it and that's fine, but I don't think you're giving it a fair chance if you're implying it's complete s--- with no value just cuz you don't like it."

    I have no issue with someone not liking the album, but what I do have issue with is the way people engage with it on a critical level. If you go into Whole Lotta Red wanting and expecting traditional hip-hop (not saying this about you, just a general statement based upon what I've seen people say) of course you're not gonna like it. It's like going into an action movie and being disappointed it isn't some ultra-serious political drama. WLR is rage music, not boom bap.

    Like for I don't really "get" Death Grips but I see the value in it and can understand why people would like it.
     
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  13. thecanibus
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    thecanibus Updated by Slyk bc I was wishing death on someone

    Dec 15, 2022
    Encore is actually pretty good if you include the bonus tracks.
     
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  14. Ripper Roo
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    Ripper Roo It was never my responsibility.

    Jan 6, 2023
    Oh for sure, anytime someone says hip hop is dead I cringe a little. Most rappers these days are definitely less afraid to take risks it seems like. Because of that, there’s so many different types of rap now. You have rappers like Lil Baby, then you have rappers like Playboi Carti who are completely different but these artists are able to coexist. I feel like earlier in rap only a certain type of rap would be popular whereas today different types of rap can thrive all at once.

    Yeah, I definitely don’t think Nas, Biggie, Jay Z, and other legends from back then are overrated. It’s just more about older music in general, not even just rap, that tends to get overrated because lots of people often feel like the s--- that came out when they were young was the best. That’s an age-old thing that I think modern music and the internet will eventually get rid of, at least partially. Artists today incorporate older sounds often, and the internet gives access to so much different music that it can be way harder to fall into the trap of thinking that older music is always better.

    Talking about 80’s and early 90’s rap, a lot of the s--- I’ve heard from back then naturally sounds very basic compared to these days. Some 80’s rap flows are especially embarrassing lol I don’t know how any oldhead could dickride that s--- but to each his own I guess. From what I’ve heard, around 1994 is when rap started to get really good
     
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  15. M.I.C.
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    M.I.C.

    Jan 6, 2023
    I agree with this to an extent. As far as what’s popular goes it’s laughable for anyone to say hip hop is dead or point to what is popular as an example of the genre being in a bad place when you consider that ringtone rap happened. Compare the guys like Lil Uzi, YB, Thug, Polo G etc etc to rappers like Jibbs, J-Kwon, Dem Franchise Boyz etc lol. That was a very dark time for the genre especially considering most of those one hit wonders are broke as f--- now. Saying that the versatile, melodic rappers of today are talentless is beyond stupid.

    The genre has also grown and morphed so much over the last few decades, trends are coming and going faster than ever and it’s a bunch of sub-genres in one now and getting increasingly hard to lump it all together.

    I think 80’s and early 90’s rap is really overrated but saying like Nas and Biggie and early Jay were overrated, nah
     
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  16. Michael Myers
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    Jan 6, 2023
    I don't fully agree with Ripper either but I do understand what he means. Sometimes artist have to grow on you, sure. I mean ffs I hated Lil Wayne at first lmao.

    But I think its very condescending that when you don't like an artist people be like 'ahh you don't get it!!' Like, get what? Kendrick fans -some- are a good example of that. Me saying I think to p---- a butterlyfly or that transgender song on his last album s---, and people responding with 'you just don't get it man'. f--- off lol

    But my main point is that artist that can do something unique, or are versatille, doesn't excuse them from getting criticized.

    You and I talked about this before but I meant like Playboy Carti. He does something unique and I see many people use that argument to defend him. I think he sounds absolutely terrible. Not to attack him, I just do.
    Another example I like Thug, a lot of his music, but Harambe is one of the worst songs I ever heard. No matter how unique it is :kanye3:

    Same as with tech nine, he can rap fast. Wow very cool but what good does it do if it mostly sounds s-----y? To me at least.
     
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  17. Ripper Roo
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    Ripper Roo It was never my responsibility.

    Jan 6, 2023
    I never assumed people are “pretending” to like the music. There are groups of people on the internet (like Anthony Fantano Stans) who have a bias toward experimental music and underground music or anything labeled as such and who dismiss anything that’s simpler. These people get a sense of superiority from that. I’ve literally met people like this in real life too. I’m not saying these people are pretending to like the music in order to get that feeling. They DO like the music, and they think they’re better than others because of that.

    I fully understand that certain music has to grow on you or click with you. I go through that all the time. The fact of the matter is certain things will never click with certain people, yet fans of certain artists (Playboi Carti for example) bully others because those other people don’t “get” it. The problem is when fans use that as a mechanism to cope with the fact that not everyone is going to like their favorite artist’s music or that their favorite artist put out garbage. It’s like when Eminem tries to say people didn’t like Revival because they didn’t get it… no, it was just a s-----y album to the vast majority of people.
     
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  18. DKC
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    DKC shortygonletmecrush

    Jan 6, 2023
    I agree with the general sentiment that new/experimental doesn't automatically mean good, just as an artist sticking to their guns doesn't necessarily mean bad. You can have failed experiments and you can have albums that don't switch up the formula but are still great. But...
    ...I don't agree with this at all. The assumption that people are pretending to like music that you consider to be bad just because it's different is kinda the same as snobby people assuming you just "don't get" music they consider to be good.

    And sometimes you truly might not "get" something at first and there's nothing wrong with that. Sometimes it takes awhile for something to "click," it's happened many times with me and honestly I find it really rewarding when you dislike an artist or album but come around to it upon repeat listens. I didn't "get" Future at all when I first listened to him, but when I tried Monster again on a whim and it for some reason clicked with me that time it was amazing.
     
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  19. Ripper Roo
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    Ripper Roo It was never my responsibility.

    Jan 4, 2023
    I agree with you on the massively overrated part. I heard someone call him the greatest musician of all time the other day and it blew my f---ing mind that someone thinks that lmao
     
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  20. Ripper Roo
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    Ripper Roo It was never my responsibility.

    Jan 4, 2023
    Count Me Out is one of Kendrick Lamar’s best songs. Crown and Auntie Diaries are some of his most important and beautiful songs.
     
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