Eminem Eminem in 2015

Started by Renovator, Aug 10, 2015, in Eminem Add to Reading List

  1. HanSolo
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    Aug 10, 2015
    Eminem with XV and since XV is hit or miss. I like some of the things he releases nowadays, but I also don't f---ing like some of the things he releases nowadays.
    First time I listened to KND was good. I want to get that feeling with more of his songs. And I hate the fact that when Eminem releases something these days , before the song/feature starts my first thought is: "I hope the flow is gonna be good/and I hope I'm gonna understand what he says, hope he won't go supersonic mode". Too bad I end up disappointed. Example: Phenomenal
    Snippet was :emoji_fire::emoji_fire:
    The whole thing was :sad2:
    He f----- up the flow, I was way too hyped with Phenomenal. Lesson learned.
     
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  2. Renovator
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    Opinions can be facts if they a based on facts and if its a widely shared opinion
     
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    His new songs just aren't good music. That's all that there is to it. The overall sound of the records .. bad. Lyrically awesome, but there's no rhythm.
     
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    Just wasn't feeling that album at all. It was his most meaningless, forgettable album yet. And all of his features during that era were even worse. The Yelawolf feature, the Pink feature, Calm Down, everything he did on Slaughterhouse's album, etc. Just awful. I feel like he really regained his form recently with Shady XV, the Southpaw Soundtrack, and his Best Friend verse.
     
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  6. Renovator
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    I think the more he's changed from Relapse to Recovery to MMLP2 and onwards its like he's lost his identity and connection to music which has resulted him to a shell of his old self
     
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    :empalm: Opinions are opinions and facts are facts. A opinion can never be a fact.
     
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    have you ever heard of the word factual opinion?
     
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    Apocalypse I’m the G.O.A.T

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    Facts are objective. Opinions are subjective. The problem is that when you have an opinion based entirely on fact, it's no longer subjective.
     
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  10. Renovator
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    Black and white opinions don't make you smart, they make you blind to the grey areas

    Let me break it down for you

    If you was a member of Jury and you had to come to a judgement you would analyse the facts (evidence) to weigh a judgement and even though facts are proof you have to take into consideration your opinion on what you witnessed within the courtroom to support the facts
     
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  11. Apocalypse
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    Apocalypse I’m the G.O.A.T

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    I've been part of a Jury before. The judicial systems should always go with the facts. In that situation, those opinions would be judged on the facts shown to the Jury. It's basically comparing evidence on what actually makes sense.
     
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  12. Renovator
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    And you don't form a judgment in your brain that is swayed by the facts?
     
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    Apocalypse I’m the G.O.A.T

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    If the evidence is supported by facts. It sure can sway my judgment.
     
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    And thats how I've formed my opinion

    case closed
     
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  15. Apocalypse
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    Apocalypse I’m the G.O.A.T

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    You're just picking between evidence at that point. That's not forming an opinion. Plus this doesn't change the fact that Opinions can never be "facts".
     
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  16. Renovator
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    Opinions can be based on facts.

    No more to say
     
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    Lol they teach this in school bruh. You're 29.. Google it.
     
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    Eminem has lost what he had in his prime and glimpses of during his comeback

    He has almost lost his identity which made him great
     
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    Aug 10, 2015
    Ill go really in detail with this to give an explanation to my opinion, Imo Eminems music has gotten better every year since 2010. Recovery I find to be a low for him. Even with as f----- as the subject matter was on Relapse, he still had great melodies and GREAT production which is the excuse so many other rappers get but for some reason not Eminem. A lot of Recovery was either melodramatic s--- or cluttered with horrible puns. Some really good songs like Spacebound, Seduction, Going Through Changes and even LTWYL. But then there are cringeworthy earsores like Almost Famous and Cold Wind Blows with melodies that make me want to blow my brains out.

    MMLP2 was a huge step up. "Bad Guy" alone blew everything he did since returning barring a few songs out of the water. The lyricism improved dramatically and the concepts and the approach were way less boring and mundane than Recovery. Look at the approach on songs like Headlights, Rhyme or Reason, Legacy, Brainless, The Monster (again an annoying hit, but he showed up on that track) Survivor was probably the low but that was for Call of Duty, otherwise Em probably wouldve replaced it with Dont Front. The bonus tracks were Godly as well. Clearly this album was way more introspective and honest then Recoverys superhero s---. The production left something to be desired, but if Dre exec produced that joint and not Rubin that album might have been incredible. The classic rock stuff and the disorriented production was where I had a disconnect with MMLP2. It was like I was listening from mashups from 3 different albums, stylistically.

    Shady XV was probably his least flawed performance since returning. His lyricism, bar for bar, blew me away. Especially on Psychopath Killers, Vegas, Right for Me and ShadyXV. It was another huge step up on this project with his brutal honesty on some tracks (Fine Line, Die Alone, Guts Over Fear). I probably enjoyed what he did on there way more than other people here, I dont think he had even had one verse even close to bad on here.

    Now in 2015 he started the year off with "Best Friend" a phenomenal f---ing track. This song doesnt get enough credit man. I knew hed have a good year after dropping that and he did. Kings Never Die and Medicine Man are great tracks. Phenomenal was good for what it was. Only s--- I hated was Speedom, it was an earsore.

    Honestly I have every reason to be excited for his next album especially since he's acknowledged the flaw with some of his flows and he listens to his fans. His music has been at an uptrend for 5 years imo, but of course youre inclined to your own opinion. What I will say is if you keep comparing modern Eminem to 28 year old prime Eminem, you will never be satisfied no matter what he drops. He will never be what he once was. Take it in individually without other peoples opinons clouding your judgment and you might come to enjoy some of it.
     
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