[Video] Hopsin - No Words

Started by Alpha, Oct 7, 2015, in Music Add to Reading List

  1. JIGGA MANE
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    Oct 7, 2015
    Fact is that people who think like that are the worst. Also there is a difference between being honest and being a lil bitter b---- who blatantly hates on literally everything.
     
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    Oct 7, 2015
    Fact? Lol no.

    He seems to be able to explain why he 'hates' the things he talks about. So bitter and blatant hater? No. He's rather intelligible.
     
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    Oct 7, 2015
    all he does to keep his name on blogs is diss rappers who are infinitely more talented than he is. and his stylistic concerns basically amount to "pull your pants up." "bitter" is an understatement.
     
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    I don't share your assumption that he cares for blogs.
     
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    Now @WPG i know you're in the business of earning money off creativity. But i care more about the societal and creative effects music can have. So it's not odd that we disagree here.
     
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    WPG sxn80 Rory Gilmore

    Oct 7, 2015
    hopsin is one of the most desperate, thirstiest rappers ever. you should see his press releases. he lives for blogs.

    i care about good music. hopsin cares about brainwashing pre-teens into thinking good music can only sound a certain way.
     
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    Could you give a clear example of that?

    To be fair, his music isn't exactly easy consumption. But i see him transgress a lot of rappers because he can be critical when there's a reason to.
     
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    WPG sxn80 Rory Gilmore

    Oct 7, 2015
    put away your thesaurus. you're not using it properly.

    hopsin is a lame, corny 30-year-old in gimmicky contact lenses who makes trite, pandering music for disaffected pre-teens. he's not some incisive cultural critic. he thinks kids should wear different jeans and that the illuminati controls the president. he's a youtube comment section come to life who can't grapple with other rappers being more popular than he is.

    i'm not going to dig through my email inbox for s--- from hopsin and funk volume, but there's a ton. again, it's pandering. he's trying to appeal to the dumbest, most sanctimonious fake-deep kids in middle and high schools because those kids bought records in 2001. the fact that you're falling for it is embarrassing.
     
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    Lol please correct me when i'm wrong, i'm not a native speaker.

    Never read so much disdain for critical thinking people tho..
    Sure he can be over-the-top and conspiracy nutty or obsessed. But you're not refuting the legitimate points he raises from time to time.
     
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    WPG sxn80 Rory Gilmore

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    he's not actually a critical thinker, he's parroting back talking points from fan-made zeitgeist sequels. what has he ever said that struck you as an interesting, cogent point? how is he in the same artistic league as future or wayne or even lupe and eminem? at least those guys are going out on limbs. he's making derivative, middling rap songs that would have been cut from def jux compilations in 98.
     
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    Lots. The fact that music is neglected as a tool to raise communities and people into being critical thinking citizens.
     
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    WPG sxn80 Rory Gilmore

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    you keep circling the same thing, but you're full of s---. he's raising energy drink-guzzling preteens to scoff at creativity and to be vaguely grossed out by gay people. do you really want to see a community that was "raised" by hopsin? what the f--- would that look like? everyone skateboards awkwardly to their job selling s-----y paintings of comic book characters having sex on the sidewalk?
     
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    Lol don't you sound the same?

    I don't think you care about the societal effects of music so i rather not have this discussion with you.
     
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    how do i sound the same?

    three things:

    1. music doesn't have to be a means to an end, where the end is "societal improvement." music is art. it's personal expression.

    2. it's LAUGHABLE to think hopsin could possibly have any positive effect on kids, which is something i keep coming back to and you keep dodging. he's operating at a pathetically stupid level of "critical thinking"--again, he's mad that people sag their pants. if you can't see that that does more harm than good, you don't know enough about america to have this conversation.

    3. although i don't think music ever needs to be explicitly about sociopolitical issues, rap music is inherently political. the fact that it exists as a (mostly) legitimized outlet--and potential career path/source of income--for otherwise disenfranchised people is invaluable. i care deeply about it as a part of our society. hopsin is MAD THAT KIDS ARE USING IT AS THEY SEE FIT. he's scoffing at young thug for making rap music because it doesn't fit his tiny brain's ideal of what it should sound like.

    in short, i find it disgusting that you would try to stake claim to some moral high ground without considering the fact that you're actually advocating something that's incredibly damaging to kids.
     
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    Who said i wanted him to embody a whole community?

    There's messages in certain types of music that can help people to thinking different and elevate their own communities. This isn't hard to understand imo.
     
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    Intelligible? Haha no. And yes it is fact because any pretentious hipster who acts like he has some sort of higher understanding of life based on the music they listen to is a dumbass.
     
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    WPG sxn80 Rory Gilmore

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    you literally just said you want him to help "raise communities."

    of course. but not only does hopsin not have anything in his music that would help "elevate" a kid listening to him--he's actually destructive. he's doing the opposite.
     
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    People tryna defend this man like they defend their reasons for wanting Trump for president.
     
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    Oct 7, 2015
    how many pages will this conversation go in circles for.

    "hopsin is a critical thinker"
    "no he's brainwashing teens to make them think music should only sound a certain way"
    "okay but he's a critical thinker"
     
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    1. Agreed, wholeheartedly.

    2. Why do you equate some of his messages to his everyday life? Would you hold Thug to the same standards? If not: Hypocrite!
    What do you know about the significance of sagging your pants btw? Isn't he in a better position than you to either criticize or endorse it, being he's black?

    3. You disqualify Hopsin as not having the right to 'scoff' (i.e. being critical of) Young Thug because it's out of his league to understand if i'm understanding you correctly... Even if that were true, that's the most elitist argument you could make against him. Rather than enlightening him and his followers you choose to oppose any and every statement he'll make and hold this as a grudge against him. Again, he might be raising some good points here and there but you've chosen to discard them all. For who knows what reason..
     
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