Eminem In Defense Of Relapse

Started by Spatula, Nov 9, 2015, in Eminem Add to Reading List

  1. Spatula
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    Spatula Relapse is a masterpiece

    Nov 9, 2015
    One thing I think is important to take into consideration with Relapse is everything that happened from Encore to Eminem's overdose and finally rehab.

    Look at Encore. It was full of simple, below standard songs. The rhymes were simple and lazy. He couldn't write at the time. And he was stuck in this kind of writer's block for years.

    It's a major change in life to go from being addicted to substance to going cold turkey and getting sober. Especially for someone like Eminem who hasn't been sober in a long while, practically never wrote or recorded sober. You don't just snap back to normal.

    At certain point Eminem started writing complex rhymes again and felt some clarity in thinking. Being so out of touch with the rest of the world he didn't know how to sound when he gets back with an album. The rhymes are there, the flows are there, it's just the subject matter that's not there. He wanted to sort of reinvent himself, he wanted to do the Slim Shady, but couldn't quite get it right yet. He asked Dre what do people want, and Dre said "they want you to go crazy again". That's how Eminem interpreted "crazy" at the time.

    Think of Relapse as finally being able to rhyme properly. After the Encore slump, just being able to rhyme with complexity to it was a huge milestone. We can't imagine what it was like to get out of that drugged out zone and how clouded his thinking was.

    My point is, say what you want about Relapse, but it was certainly a huge step forward from the drugged out Encore style writing he couldn't get out of for years. The content is not working for a lot of people, but the context of what was going on behind the scenes is important to recognize.

    Eminem was proving to himself that he can rhyme again. The content may have been a misguided take on "go crazy again" but it's not important. He was out of the lazy drugged rhyming pattern and that was enough for the time being. Honestly, it's amazing he got out of his addiction alive.
     
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  2. TheBlackSheep
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    TheBlackSheep TDOSS is RAP AOTY.

    Nov 9, 2015
    :clap::clap: Well done, i agree with every word. Relapse is one of my favorite albums, the best horrorcore i've ever seen in an album. The whole ''serial killer'' thing was great, it show us where Em was going with his own mind, almost going insane in his house isolated from the world.
     
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  3. Krabby Patty
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    Krabby Patty OVOXO

    Nov 9, 2015
    Everything about the album was Dope af except for the accent at times. Sometimes it was cool like "Same Song And Dance", some times, it just got plain annoying af...like on "Old Times Sake"
     
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  4. GawDEDEDE
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    Nov 9, 2015
    I'm just so f---ing depressed, I just can't seem to get out this slump
     
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  5. boyz n the suburbs
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    Nov 9, 2015
    He f----- up OTS with that d--- accent.
     
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    Nov 9, 2015
    I cosign this powerful thread cheah
     
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  7. Chad Warden
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    Chad Warden As Ballin As Possible

    Nov 9, 2015
    I'M DANCING IN MY RED PANTIES
     
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  8. Goku187
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    Nov 9, 2015
    Here's the thing, the album is bad
     
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    mdemaz Molasses

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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

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  11. homeless bitch
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    homeless bitch homeless piece of shit with nothing to live for

    Nov 10, 2015
    Relapse is great if you just bob your head to the dre beats and wonder "what the f--- am i doing with my life right now?"
     
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  12. SHUDEYE
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    SHUDEYE Kerser is the sickest.

    Nov 10, 2015
    I don't mind the idea of it. Just minus the accents and a little bit of the weirdness and I would have liked it a lot more.
     
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  13. Brubbels
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    Nov 10, 2015
    Exactly. Cool for Eminem that he got sober and all, but it's no excuse for the s-----y music. Some of you are approaching this as if you're his mother.
     
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  14. gorealsteady
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    gorealsteady heal & create

    Nov 10, 2015
    Uh, the beats clearly arent bad tho
     
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  15. eddie313
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    eddie313 The Funeral

    Nov 10, 2015
    What rapper u know gonna say a certain album of theirs is in the trash like dont even listen to that s---...lol that takes guts and honesty....so in reality Relapse cant be taken seriously because of Ems statement
     
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  16. Michael Myers
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    Michael Myers Moderator

    Nov 10, 2015
    Great beat, great flow, 3/4 good songs (and Deja Vu). Rest sucks
     
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  17. Views
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    Views New nikka, just new nikka

    Nov 10, 2015
    I read the title in the Relapse accent :kdotrly:
     
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  18. Cyreides
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    Cyreides gfy

    Nov 10, 2015
    don't need a defense for liking it

    i think it's one of his best albums to date
     
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  19. CSA
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    CSA Architect

    Nov 10, 2015
    Relapse was a huge step to right direction yeah, like Recovery was a huge step to right direction. Oh wait, so was The Marshall Mathers LP and after that h---: The Sequel and then SHADY XV.
    How many steps does Eminem have to take to be in that "right place" already. He keeps takin the steps but he aiN't reaching nowhere. Except 4-5 songs Encore is a lot better than Relapse to me tho...
     
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  20. ConspiracyGang
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    Nov 10, 2015
    Besides Beautiful and Deja Vu which are classic songs and 10/10 perfect songs and Crack A Bottle which is a 8/10 song. The rest of Relapse is trash

    Not including the bonus songs as they are both 10/10 classic songs too

    The fact that everyone loves Beautiful but hates the rest of Relapse say's it all. Imagine how much more Relapse would be hated if Beautiful wasn't on it

    The only great thing about the album is the hooks
     
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