Eminem Do we hate on MMLP2 mostly because of its name?

Started by Immy, Nov 17, 2015, in Eminem Add to Reading List

  1. Immy
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    Nov 17, 2015
    was thinking about this earlier, If it was titled something different maybe I would consider it top 5 album but the fact its the sequel to the MMLP makes me dislike it
     
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    Nov 17, 2015
    The name is part of it, definitely.
     
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    Nov 17, 2015
    No, he could name it anything and I'd still think it's hot garbage. His worst album so far.
     
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    Nov 17, 2015
    I think it being titled something else would definitely help its case.
     
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    Nov 17, 2015
    idk
     
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    Nov 17, 2015
    If the title was different, Ive wouldnt compare it to the masterpiece / magnum opus / classic album The Marshall Mathers LP
    I hate the name but I dont hate on the album
    it was good album but not great like he used to
    h--- I listen more to Recovery album than MMLP2
    Rick Rubin is not a great choice for Eminem. bring back Dr Dre
     
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    Nov 17, 2015
    This is where you need to realise it's not considered a sequel
     
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    Nov 17, 2015
    Yes.. People underrate MMLP 2 a lot. But in the future they probably gonna consider it as near classic. Remember when Koolo was saying it's 10/10 The Monster was a classic. People were crazy over the album most of them went far and said it's a classic. Look what happened now. They bury it. It's gonna change again tho..
     
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    Nov 17, 2015
    Just tell me how a sequel to a MMLP could have been like ? he did a very good and creative sequel to Bad Guy, he gave some dope Shady tracks like Brainless and Evil Twin. He probably talked about Kim without naming in like 2 songs. He talked about his current situation about his relationship with his mom. He basically talked about the same topics he did on MMLP and even the album starts with the end of the Criminal. he could have given more but it still is a great sequel.
     
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    Nov 17, 2015
    Relapse = MMLP2

    Masterpiece, but people underrate it because it is different than what they expected (1999-2003 style).

    Also both are a little complicated, so its not catchy enough for the casual listener and in the same time can't capture the word play - internal rhymes - the complicated flow.

    and I don't blame the fans, although I love both albums, but I think Em should go back without being complicated.
     
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    Nov 17, 2015
    you mean bring back dre AND melman? lol

    Eminem - The Slim Shady LP[edit]
    02. "My Name Is"
    03. "Guilty Conscience" (featuring Dr. Dre) (Produced with Eminem)
    09. "Role Model" (Produced with Mel-Man)

    Eminem - The Marshall Mathers LP[edit]
    02. "k--- You" (Produced with Mel-Man)
    05. "Who Knew" (Produced with Mel-Man)
    08. "The Real Slim Shady" (Produced with Mel-Man)
    09. "Remember Me" (featuring RBX & Sticky Fingaz) (Produced with Mel-Man)
    10. "I'm Back" (Produced with Mel-Man)
    15. "b---- Please II" (featuring Dr. Dre, Snoop Dogg, Xzibit & Nate Dogg) (Produced with Mel-Man)

    Eminem - The Eminem Show[edit]
    03. "Business"
    17. "Say What You Say" (featuring Dr. Dre)
    19. "My Dad's Gone Crazy"

    Eminem - Encore[edit]
    02. "Evil Deeds"
    03. "Never Enough" (featuring 50 Cent & Nate Dogg) (Produced with Mike Elizondo)
    06. "Mosh" (Produced with Mark Batson)
    10. "Rain Man"
    11. "Big Weenie"
    13. "Just Lose It" (Produced with Mike Elizondo)
    14. "a--- Like That" (Produced with Mike Elizondo)
    20. "Encore/Curtains Down" (featuring Dr. Dre & 50 Cent) (Produced with Mark Batson)


    Eminem - Relapse[edit]
    01. "Dr. West" (Skit)
    02. "3 a.m."
    03. "My Mom"
    04. "Insane"
    Sample Credit: "Jock Box" by The Skinny Boys
    05. "Bagpipes from Baghdad" (Produced with T. Lawrence)
    06. "Hello" (Produced with Mark Batson)
    07. "Tonya" (Skit)
    08. "Same Song & Dance" (Produced with Dawaun Parker)
    09. "We Made You" (Produced with Eminem & Doc Ish)
    Sample Credit: "Hot Summer Nights" by Walter Egan
    10. "Medicine Ball" (Produced with Mark Batson)
    11. "Paul" (Skit)
    12. "Stay Wide Awake"
    13. "Old Time's Sake" (featuring Dr. Dre) (Produced with Mark Batson)
    14. "Must Be The Ganja" (Produced with Mark Batson)
    15. "Mr. Mathers" (Skit)
    16. "Déjà Vu"
    18. "Crack a Bottle" (featuring Dr. Dre & 50 Cent)
    Sample Credit: "Mais dans ma lumière" by Mike Brant
    19. "Steve Berman" (Skit)
    20. "Underground"


    Eminem - Relapse: Refill[edit]
    02. "h--- Breaks Loose" (featuring Dr. Dre) (Produced with Mark Batson)
    03. "Buffalo Bill" (Produced with Mark Batson)
    05. "Taking My Ball"
    06. "Music Box" (Produced with Dawaun Parker)
    07. "Drop the Bomb on 'Em"


    Eminem - Recovery[edit]
    13. "So Bad"
    18. "Ridaz" (Bonus track)


    most of the beats included here MINUS melman are trash, exlcuding the production masterpiece that is relapse

    that being said, youre stuck in the past, and if most of those beats were released present day, they would be modern dust.
     
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    It's obvious that Rick Rubin was bad for Em. Dre, Mel-Man, Scott Storch, Luis Resto, Emile and Eminem himself would give classic production easily...
     
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    Came in to say this. The name doesn't change the fact that it's an awful album. Encore & Relapse are miles ahead of MMLP2 and that's not saying much.
     
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    Nov 17, 2015
    though i do agree the others would have been better... Marshall wanted the classic rock acid rap vibe, and rubin was the best choice for that whether you see it or not... that type of music IS Rubin.

    most of the people that complain about the classic rock samples are 13 year olds who have no idea how big of an impact those tracks were because they weren't born.

    and the other group is 30-40 year olds who have the mindset that Eminem needs to stick to his 1999-2003 sound, AKA stuck in the past


    off topic; the amount of trash threads in this section make it hard to make any logical posts due to the overwhelming amount of s--- that is displayed.
     
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    Nov 17, 2015
    Always thought the criticism of Rubin was unfair. He gave Marshall exactly what he wanted on the album, not his fault Em couldn't deliver.
     
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    Nov 17, 2015
    Corny lines, bad hooks, basic as f--- production.
     
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    Nov 17, 2015
    If you think Eminem didn't murder the beat in Berzerk, you're being ignorant.
     
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    I don't have problem with MMLP 2 production but definitely could've been a lot better. Recovery is an alltime low produced s---. It's pretty interenting to see it selling like 15 million copies Worldwide with those awful beats he rapped on. Singles and his delivery definitely helped him a lot with the popularity of the album
     
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    Berzerk was good and Em killed it but it's not the type of beat I'm a big fan of..
     
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