Jan 2, 2016

almost everyone in this thread is at least half-wrong.

i suspect kanye's next album, whatever it's called, will be when he finally falls off. let's be honest: who has made it through the first seven albums (and 12 years) of their solo career unscathed? he's overdue for a slip, and while Yeezus is a tremendous album, it was smartly constructed so that the lyrics, which he clearly didn't put much thought into until the last minute, weren't going to sink or float the project.

it would be stupid to draw too many conclusions from a soundcloud loosie where he disses a shoe company in the jumpman cadence. but it might be cause for concern that his big new year's eve drop, after only two solo songs the previous calendar year, was...a soundcloud loosie where he disses a shoe company in tihe jumpman cadence.

if nothing else, this shows that people saying "oh he's too cocky" or that he won't know if his s--- is bad are obviously, obviously wrong. when he put out "only one," "fourfiveseconds," "all day," and performed "wolves" in a three-month span, the plan was clearly to drop soon. he didn't. in august, i was overseas with a few apple executives, who told me they were in the final stages of arranging a surprise drop "very soon." that didn't happen, either. obviously, kanye keeps sitting down with a whiteboard and his hard drive, plotting out a tracklist, and realizing he isn't ready.

but then you loop back around to the idea that it's been exactly 12 months since he went through one of his trademark creative reboots, and is now aping drake because he thinks he has to to build buzz. it's not that his quality control is gone--"facts" obviously will never come near an album--it's that he hasn't decided to, or hasn't been able to, lock himself in a room and up the ante.

i've thought kanye was going to fall off with 808s, Dark Fantasy, and Yeezus, and i was wrong all those times. but there have never been as many pump fakes as there have been this time around.

 

Jan 2, 2016

All Day was pretty nice, nothing mindblowing but good enough

Seeing as Rick Rubin cut out 6 tracks from Yeezus and asked Kanye to save them for his next album, I hope the sound direction of the album will be more different from Yeezus than what we've heard so far. Ever since Kanye cut away from his College Trilogy, one of his main strengths has been exciting and innovative sound directions and I really hope that doesn't end here.

Then again Kanye is too much of a perfectionist for the album to be bad. No matter how long it's gonna take, no matter how many producers and engineers he's gonna get in the studio to help with mixing and mastering, he's definitely gonna come with something that's worthwhile.

-- I don't think he will ever top 808s & Heartbreak though

 

Jan 2, 2016

Then what else? The subject matter they have in common for tapes like Monster was influenced by Kanye in the first place. And I really doubt Kanye started to rap about lean and crack dealing in lil mexico

Future's flow and cadencing has been used before him, so Kanye definitely didn't copy that.

Kanye also did triplets only verse on Mercy which was recorded in 2011, while Future's first use of a full triplet verse is I'm Tripping off of Pluto. (Recorded around the same time)

 

Jan 2, 2016

Kanye literally popularized the use of autotune in hip hop more than anyone else with 808s & Heartbreak. This is like saying Juicy J is copying Atlanta by doing trap music.

 

Jan 11, 2016

Real friends and no

 

Jan 2, 2016

 

Jan 2, 2016

It is. What Future/Dungeon Fam did was take the key themes and sound direction off that album and mix it with trap. That's astronaut music in a nutshell, with some retrofuturistic slang on the side.

Sure the result might sound very different, but without the influence of 808s, Future would just be generic Atlanta trap with nothing special added at all.

 

Jan 2, 2016

he's not copying Future at all? He worked with Southside and Metro on ONE TRACK? He released ONE TRACK with the Drake Jumpman flow? Is that it? You're saying Wolves is copying Future? Fade? Even All Day? I seriously don't understand what you mean.

 

Jan 12, 2016

You reported him for trashing on Yeezus?!

REAL!

 

Jan 12, 2016

brah pls

 

Jan 11, 2016

My dreams of being a mod will never come true. Only 1 Aussie allowed. Gonna have to k--- Joel for it.

 

Jan 11, 2016

Chad didn't mean that wtf he's just mad cuz the PSN is f---ing up rn.

 

Jan 11, 2016

 

Jan 11, 2016

keep up that backseat modding fam you'll get the juice eventually

 

Jan 11, 2016

What if... you try searching?

https://forum.sectioneighty.com/swish-will-s----thoughts.t49371/

 

Jan 2, 2016

Ok my bad.

Anyway, is facts even a single? It looks like it's a loosie. I don't think SWISH will sound bad or like facts. Kanye has always taken an innovative approach with his last few albums, he won't hope on a trend.

 

Jan 2, 2016

Wolves, Only One and All Day aren't bad songs.
Plus I'm convinced that the other track was a throwaway so I'm still optimistic.