Jun 1, 2016the production > both
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Jun 1, 2016
been a minute since i heard this but Kanye's Murder To Excellence 2nd verse is the best on the album.
"It's a war going on outside we ain't safe from
I feel the pain of my city wherever I go
314 soldiers died in Iraq,
509 died in Chicago"
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Jun 1, 2016
This is the last time Jay was genuinely great, and Kanye was at perhaps his most charismatic. They've got infectious chemistry and are both in fine form for totally different reasons. What a great, strangely underrated album.
smh @ @Michael Myers having an incorrect tracklist!!Groovy Tony, Ordinary Joel, SLAYAR and 4 others like this. -
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mchg is not even close to safe. Holy Grail is the only safe song on there. Not every rapper in his 40s can pull off what jay did on mchg and make it sound amazingSLAYAR, dkdnfbdjdkdddjdjfvcgfl, xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and 1 other person like this. -
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Jun 1, 2016
@Michael Myers your tracklist is different from mine bro.
1. No Church in the Wild - Kanye
2. Lift Off - Kanye - hardly any Jay
3. n----s in Paris - Jay
4. Otis - Kanye
5. Gotta Have It - Kanye, but this was really close
6. New Day - Jay, again this was really close
7. That's My b---- - Kanye
8. Welcome to the Jungle - Jay; Ye should've had a verse
9. Who Gon Stop Me - Jay
10. Murder to Excellence - Kanye on both parts
11. Made in America - Jay, but another close one
12. Why I Love You - Jay - hardly any Ye
13. Illest MFer Alive - Kanye
14. H·A·M - Jay
15. Primetime - Kanye
16. The Joy - Kanye, but he had 2 verses compared to 1 for Jay
So if we cancel out the tracks where one was more prominent than the other, the tally is
Kanye - 7
Jay - 5
Total
Kanye - 9
Jay - 7
You factor production into it, and I stand by saying Kanye is the main reason WTT is so good.Groovy Tony, Ordinary Joel, Old Account and 1 other person like this. - May 15, 2026
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Jay z the best braggadocios rapper ever.Ordinary Joel, SLAYAR and Michael Myers like this.May 15, 2026 -
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yeah I mean that's just...clearly wrongDeadpool, dkdnfbdjdkdddjdjfvcgfl and Kon like this. -
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Wow so far 2/2 people picked Kanye for Illest alive, crazy..
I've always been a bigger Jay fan so I preferred him, always felt like he was a better rapper.Deadpool, Vos and Michael Myers like this.May 15, 2026 - May 15, 2026
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New Day is a tricky one. Kanyes verse is so deep but a couple of Jay's bars are deep too. Kinda equals it out.
"Sorry junior, I already ruined ya
Cause you ain’t even alive, paparazzi pursuin’ ya"Ordinary Joel, SLAYAR and Michael Myers like this. -
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Jun 1, 2016
Will relisten tonight as well. So far the only one I can see I disagree with is Illest MFer Alive, Jay killed thatpluto✰, Kon and xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx like this.
