Jul 22, 2016

Because literally every single person who studies racism on sociological levels defines it as the above sort of discrimination against oppressed groups. Racism against white people is not, by the current working definition, a thing.

(It also doesn't matter; even if you say racism against white people is still racism, someone saying "honky" on a message board is not perpetuating anything violent or destructive to our culture the way someone saying "n----" is. That should be obvious and I would feel condescending explaining it.)

No one on staff censured me because everyone on the staff understood it wasn't a real threat.

Irrelevant, because I didn't hijack any threads. You did.

 

Jul 22, 2016

You do that by putting the cart before the horse i.e putting the context of a word before it's actual denotation, and not even in a logical manner either. it's a complete non-sequitur to say that you can't be racist to white people.

Lol at a white guy telling me I can't be racist. If people like you are branded as intellectuals, your country is f-----.

 

Jul 22, 2016

Except oppression isn't synonymous with racism. Which reduces their definition to bs. Since when did any of you r-----s gain the ability to change the meaning of words?

 

Jul 22, 2016

I'm not being "sarcastic" in any of the points I make. I am in delivery, but I'm being very, very sincere in my arguments themselves.

Uhhhhhhhh.......do you know what a non-sequitur is? Because my argument there follows directly from my premise.

No 16-year-old is going to have a thorough, nuanced understanding of the sociological landscape of another country. You've proven time and time again that you're not an exception to that rule.

 

Jul 22, 2016

There can be oppression without racism, but not racism without oppression. "You r-----s" are the people who study these matters at the highest levels as a career. I'm not pulling anything out of thin air; this is the belief of the current school of sociological theory in North America.

(Also, if they gave out warnings for "honky," they'd give out warnings for "r-----" too, so why don't you quiet your little whiney a--- down.)

 

Jul 22, 2016

Yeah but what the f--- does ANY of that do to change the literal definition of racism which is neither subordinate to context nor synonymous with racism. You can create a new term if you want, but racism is f---ing taken mate.

 

Jul 22, 2016

Yeah so I've addressed this four different times now in four different ways and if you're too thickheaded and stubborn to admit you don't understand the nuances of social theory in another country as a teenager, you might as well just log out. You're embarrassing yourself. And derailing a thread! @Help @Help @Help @Help

 

Jul 22, 2016

arent mods kinda like the police of the forum
kinda fishy to call on them for help

 

Jul 22, 2016

I agree calling on mods is similar to calling the police! That's why I'm mocking GS for doing it.

Similar to how me making fun of "honkeys" was just me mirroring JMG's racist rhetoric, but GS was too stupid to understand that.

 

Jul 22, 2016

whats going on?

- DP

 

Jul 22, 2016

Never mind me I was mocking Genghis Stan's snitching. He's derailing a very good thread!

 

Jul 22, 2016

Another fallacy, because by your own admission the supposed 'oppression' of black people is merely the accumulation of very small racist 'Subtleties' which group together to form oppression. Your assertion states that the conclusion of 'oppression' is more important than the evidence itself, which is absolute bs.

Which means nothing if all of them after going to university are unable to use basic logic. Your education system is f----- if this is the output. You might be able to confuse the common man. But i am a little bit above your bs.

Except the word 'r-----' has nothing to do with race. Why you choose to compare them is beyond me.

 

Jul 22, 2016

Wow. Dude, you are very, very dumb if you believe that's my view. Wow. You might need to take a step back and realize you can learn things from other people.

This is not a sentence that means anything. Try harder.

LOL. What is "my bs"? I am not creating any argument, I am not synthesizing things on my own. I'm merely telling you what the professionals who study these things believe. You are weirdly militant against me all the time. These aren't the culture wars! It's a message board and you should be worried about acne and Sadie Hawkins.

I...............just...............what? I never said "r-----" was race-related, lmao. But it's offensive! In a way that "honky" isn't, fyi.

 

Jul 22, 2016

It's what you've implied when i asked you to point out the inherent racism in the law. Unless you can find another way to justify spouting s--- about Obama being oppressed.

It must be above your level of thinking.
Just because different forms of racism can accumulate to form oppression does not mean that the conclusion of oppression is what defines racism. Try harder

Yes, and what i am telling you, is that wherever you get it from is full of s---.
I picked real subjects over sociology though so what would i know?

Yeah, it's really shocking as to why anyone would be militant against you.

Yes but the level of offence is down to the person receiving the insult anyways. And apart from that , the slippery slope that mods would have to give warnings for r----- is incorrect and again fallacious, because the rule specifically says racism. the level of offence is irrelevant.

'Try harder'

 

Jul 22, 2016

"We have a black president! Racism is dead!" Read Derrick Bell. You're punching above your weight.

Alright, let's stop for a second.

I've told you more than a half-dozen times now that the working definition of racism as something inextricable from oppression is not my own. It's the definition used by people who study these things professionally. Why, instead of absorbing that and responding to it, are you still rattling off barely-coherent posts where you act as if I made it up?

L M A O

"real subjects over sociology"

Sociology is one of the keys to having a functioning society. Sociology combined with economics is the only thing that can reliably form working domestic policies. But do you wanna keep jacking yourself off because you're in a calculus course? Spare me.

You could learn things. You're choosing to sink deeper into a weird, myopic ignorance.

You want to go that route? Okay: I'm white. You're not. "Honky" is not offensive. End of discussion.

Once again, you are very, very bad at this.

 

Jul 22, 2016

The absolute f---ing absurdity of a 16-year-old from another country dismissing an entire field of academics and professionals as "r-----s" is so astounding. What an arrogant, self-absorbed person you would have to be.

 

Jul 22, 2016

@Genghis Stan you are wrong. please stop

 

Jul 22, 2016

You can't pass yourself off as an intellectual and claim sociology isn't a "real subject." It doesn't work like that.

 

Jul 22, 2016

ftr: on an individual level, anyone can be racist lol. Louis Farrakhan is at least anti semitic, if not openly hostile to white people. You can make racist statements against anyone. I'm thinking of Lauryn Hill, certain athletes. But like... who cares. Gay people can be homophobic (Roy Cohn)

The real question is about institutional racism. In America, our country was founded by -- and today, largely controlled by -- white people. On nearly every plane. It's a class question -- the majority of low income families are minorities. You can create policies that unfairly punish them, economically or otherwise. The role of institutional racism, understanding its machinations, is key. And given the circumstances, it's difficult to honestly say there are class or sociological driven policies that target white people en masse.