Nov 9, 2016

I have no problem "taking an L". I'm just like...too old to get proud about this sort of thing lol. Particularly because what happened was such a massive upset. Not in the popular vote (Hillary won by a margin the polls indicated she would) - but in the electoral college (I don't think there was a single poll that ever had Trump leading in Wisconsin...perhaps Michigan as well). I believed the polls were correct. They generally have been correct in my lifetime. There wasn't any reason to believe that my thought process was misguided - but at the end of the day it was! I was wrong. @lordkimura - as I've addressed, you got it right.

My bigger worry, obviously, is with the country as a whole. This is not just some typical loss where I think my guy was better than your guy. I was not enamored with Hillary Clinton; I had strong desire for a candidate with less baggage, better messaging, and a more genuine nature. But she was undoubtedly qualified, capable, intelligent, and (in my eyes) right on many issues.

On the other hand, we have President Elect Donald Trump.

This is a man who consistently bullies others (see his Twitter account).
This is a man with overwhelming arrogance (he constantly boasts of his own greatness).
This is a man proud of his own ignorance (his lack of policy understanding is well documented).
This is a man with many outgoing accusations of fraud and sexual assault (he will be in court later this month). The latter accusations corroborate HIS OWN WORDS, btw.
This is a man who consistently pits Americans against each other (threats to deport Mexicans; threats to ban Muslims), often in ways that relate to their skin color or heritage.
This is a man totally intolerant of dissent (some of the threats he has made regarding journalists and free speech are among the most terrifying to me personally).
This is a man with reckless disregard for norms (he admits he plans to abandon our allies; he embraces war crimes casually).
This is a man who sees no place for civility (he threatened to jail one opponent; he called another opponent's wife ugly).
This is a man who lies, constantly, unapologetically - about big things (his support for the Iraq War), small things (his characterization of Obama's treatment of a protestor), and everything in between.

These are all very bad traits if I'm looking to hire a part-time intern to fetch me coffee. They're horrific for a president of the United States. I can only hope that he has been acting as an entertainer and the gravity of the office changes him. There are signs that he could be pragmatic on policy (embrace for infrastructure spending; some support for entitlements in unexpected ways) - but I worry the GOP-controlled Congress will stifle that.

I saw this described somewhere as a "primal scream" of an election - a message that the establishment isn't representative of the views of the electorate. I find that hard to square with Barack Obama's 56% approval rating, but I can still comprehend it, even if I disagree with it. What I find harder to get is that THIS man, this person with so many personal failings and flaws as a leader, is the one people saw as the solution. He had countless chances to demonstrate fitness for office throughout the campaign and he failed....often, and spectacularly. We will all be grappling with what this means for a long time, myself included. Anyone who says they know what the next four years looks like is lying to you. And I hope and pray he surprises me as POTUS just like he surprised me last night. But when I contemplate the man he has shown himself to be in the campaign, and the challenges that lie ahead, I have never been more scared for the future of my country.

 

Nov 9, 2016

i'm sorry, but the f---ing nerve of this guy to call anyone "pompous" when he writes articles like this

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come through @Perry The Platypus let's talk about being pompous

 

Nov 9, 2016

@lordkimura has the right to rub this in all of your faces forever for all the s--- a lot of you gave him. So far he's being pretty classy about it though, saw he had one post rubbing it in a bit but even that wasn't bad.

Trump and his supporters deserve this, they all dealt with a ton of s---, some of which was flat out made up or exaggerated and Trump won fair and square.

Craziest election I've ever been a part of by far.

 

Nov 9, 2016

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Nov 9, 2016

its not about Ls and Ws, its about doing whats right by US and the world...Trump leading the biggest country in the world isnt an L for few S80 members..its an L for everyone including

yes, including Canadian, i am not sure why you thought its a good idea to ask some members to take L when your supposed to be a teacher teaching the kids how the world works, let me ask you something, do you know how the world works? i assume not since you added "lol" after "Im Canadian" as if your not f----- as well by Trump being elected, as if..the oil prices might not crash further and f--- your country

Parry, are you a r-----? i ask because i am astonished by the lack of human cells in the posts you made...are you r-----? i ask because i worry about the future of the kids you teach...are you r-----? i ask because only r-----s and racists vote for Trump, so if your not a r-----, your racist? nothing wrong with it but its ok to admit it

like a kid in school, come forward and let the rest of the class know...Parry, are you a r----- or racist?

 

Nov 9, 2016

you're in your 20s and think weed should be a crime? lol have you ever had sex

 

Nov 9, 2016

This thread created by and supported by sickly frail cacs with afros who say "n----" and listen to rap ironically

 

Nov 9, 2016

so... i won that one too. You remain a Canadian nerd who got ran off a message board bc you were embarrassed about your writings/opinions (which -- rly strangely -- include punishing people for smoking pot! its 2016)

you're done. bend over im horny

 

Nov 9, 2016

America has Taken an L because of voters like you so keep it

 

Nov 9, 2016

"take an L" lol

This thread backfired hard on you.... didn't you recently go see Obie Trice perform live?

 

Nov 9, 2016

He took an L in an L thread...

 

Nov 16, 2016

I don't know why this Mike Tyson guy is so mad, folks. Back in the 90s I hosted his fights and everyone was perfectly happy. Now all of a sudden he comes out supporting Crooked Hillary. He needs to back off my people and do it quick before I make him look like Crooked Hillary at the 9/11 memorial. I mean it, folks.

 

Nov 9, 2016

I agree with a lot of this but I absolutely think most of his campaign was an act to get these idiots to vote for him. I don't think he'll be that bad. At the end of the day I think he was an NY liberal the majority of his life and I just don't see him raising the children he did if he rrally was what he poretraced himself to be. maybe I'm wrong though. What scares the s--- out of me is his VP and cabinet. God forbid something happens to him and Pence has to step in. Jesus Christ. Public funding for "conversion therapy".... I mean that's just one thing but f--- me.

 

Nov 9, 2016

because a black guy named Barack Hussein Obama twice won a country that's capable of electing...this. (plus the second time he was saddled with a slow economic recovery and the gop's messaging campaign about healthcare reform.)

 

Nov 9, 2016

So no argument you got ran off, posted under an alias... and are just returning to be smug because a reality TV star is replacing the first black president? Weird!

 

Nov 9, 2016

Is this seriously a real thread? Bruh the country took an L. f--- outta here.

 

Nov 9, 2016

reminder that the discussion of how r-----ed the electoral vote is needs to happen BEFORE the election and is useless afterwards

 

Nov 9, 2016

From where? We have plenty of dumbass Canadians who were cheering for that b----, I just can't wrap my head around why

 

Nov 9, 2016

Perry did you seriously call me pompous and self-righteous? we may disagree, but you've deserved any barbs I've shot your way. And please... where is "Pryme" at