Jay-Z The JAY-Z vs Nas debate is argued incorrectly

Started by Xdx, Sep 25, 2017, in Music Add to Reading List

  1. 1999
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    Yeah I def feel that way, I hate when people say big would have fell off I dont think so I feel like he would be the better jay z unfortunately that didnt happen though so im not gonna act like it did
     
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  2. Big Dangerous
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    I'd love to know how

    I mean I do know it ends with u saying Em is better than everyone with a patented lol at the end
     
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    Prime Eminem sure is.
     
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    Kanye top 10 for his discog alone though
     
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    Are you talking about Born Again? That's a posthumous album that could never stack up against TES, MMLP, or SSLP
     
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    jay in his prime was as good as biggie with the rhymes , idk what technical rapping is to you either lol
    overall lyricism ? ... explain man

    flow can be argued for jay too since he used so many candences , articulations , timings in his career
     
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    Despite sslp being more cartoony I think it's much more mature than TES and deals with issues in his life that make you feel for him and actually care, plus Eminem was actually funny back then. TES is melodramatic, lacks the wit that drew people to Eminem, and has a lot of filler.

    Say Goodbye Hollywood, Till I collapse...that's about it that I could conceivably see myself wanting to listen to as an adult. Oh and without me has staying power for me, not gonna lie, but that might just be nostalgia.
     
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    As a hip hop artist, yes. But none of that makes him good at rapping.
     
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    RTD, LAD DISC 1, LAD DISC 2
     
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    Big didn't live to see 25 and hit heights Eminem hasn't seen in a two decade career, can't believe this is a debate
     
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    Eminem's first three are better than those.
     
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    Accolades do not translate into rapping prowess.
     
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    I was responding to virus who also said technical rhyming and overall lyricism to which I gave to BIG because I didn't know what he meant
     
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    Sing for the moment is Ems best song tho
     
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    Yea...not to me

    SSLP shoots down that argument quick
     
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    I know but this isnt just rapping ability were talking about all of the music.
     
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    kast
    roots
    jay
    kanye
    em
    doom

    just of the top and i can argue some others like gfk , g--- starr , atcq
     
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    Who said anything about accolades? I'm talking about rapping ability. Big took rapping further in a 4 year span than Em has done in 20
     
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    I'm talking about rhyming, use of poetic devices, double-entendres, triple-entendres, etc.
     
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    I feel like it's at least a discussion and overall having a debatable goat single disc record and debateable goat double disc record means a lot imo
     
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