Jay-Z The JAY-Z vs Nas debate is argued incorrectly

Started by Xdx, Sep 25, 2017, in Music Add to Reading List

  1. Cyreides
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    Cyreides gfy

    Sep 25, 2017
    s---'s not relevant and hasn't been in years
     
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  2. volvo
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    Sep 25, 2017
    Yes.

    However, we must remember that we're discussing music. What's the point of discussing music if it's subjective (which it is)? The only way you can do it is by pretending it's objective, otherwise you end up just throwing opinions around, which is pretty pointless to make an entire discussion out of. And if you pretend it's objective... you can't simply throw the "sounding better" argument around, since it's opinion-based.
     
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  3. Cyreides
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    Sep 25, 2017
    That's what happens regardless
     
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  4. Winter
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    Sep 25, 2017
    Even if this was true, so what? How would being "simple" make them weak? Does every song need a Rap Genius write-up to make it good?
     
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    Sep 25, 2017
    Ι οnly like 2 Hov albums so Nas>>
     
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  7. Soldier
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    Soldier big cuntry's alias

    Sep 25, 2017
    It's 2017. Why is Eminem even being brought up especially with the likes of Jay and BIG, dude is trash, get over it.

    Jay-Z the greatest rapper of all time.
     
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  8. Soldier
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    Soldier big cuntry's alias

    Sep 25, 2017
    Are we really comparing the guy who made Life After Death or Reasonable Doubt and Blueprint to hasn't made a listenable song in over a decade Eminem? Em's first 3 albums overrated as f--- and like BC said, the only one I could ever see myself going back to is SSLP because he was at least somewhat funny on there. Deleted every ounce of Eminem out of my iTunes library years ago now, most overrated rapper ever and most r-----ed fanbase to ever exist.
     
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    Soldier big cuntry's alias

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    I'm Narsh posting rn but this whole "who is the most technical rapper" s--- is stupid too. Any idiot can sit down with a dictionary and put together nonsensical rhymes, at the end of the day all that matters is how the music sounds.
     
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    The fact that there's nothing superbly done about them. How are you going to write something that has nothing special to it and be up there with the actual talented lyricists who are actually doing something intelligent with their words?
     
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    what ? tf and people saying he saying smt right

    "Jay-Z writes based on what sounds better"

    this made me laugh so hard
     
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  13. volvo
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    This makes no sense. The "technical rappers" mentioned here are supposed to make sense despite all of their lyrical complexity.
     
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    ok
     
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    Oh, I didn't know Jay-Z wrote with the intent of sounding worse than scratching a plate with a fork. Enlighten me.
     
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    because people don't give a f--- if someone is coming up with quintuplet rhyme schemes if the music itself sounds trash.
     
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    what you write doesnt make it sound trash , ofc if the lyrics trash u cant do anything

    i think you trying to talk about delivery and beat that makes a rap song sound good for you
     
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    Sep 25, 2017
    This thread went completely off topic
     
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    like if you talking about the melodic aspect lmao why tf what you write has anything to do with that , you can say the most r-----ed s--- and make it sound melodic if you have a nice delivery and the beat bangs
     
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  20. DKC
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    Sep 25, 2017
    Exactly -- this topic is asserting technical is better. It's like if a good actor has a bad script. It doesn't matter how good they are if the dialogue is awful.
     
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