Jan 30, 2017

Alright, well i'll give you that one.

Yeah ok, so 7 countries, all of them have
"look out for high risk individuals from these countries"
why is it so fucken bad they aren't allowed to come to america for 3 months? whys it such a big deal? without jumping onto the dual citenzenship/green card thing, those people will still be able to come and go, they are just treated like s--- for 5 minutes and forced to undergo some kind of government interview. big. f---ing. deal. it's 3 months.

ah, not sure what you meant by posting this?
"following obama's lead on #muslimban"
"following obamas lead"

And that guys saying these countries are dangerous to visit. If a country is dangerous to visit, it's because of the people in it, not because of the country lol. So again, really don't see why this is a big deal.

Yeah I may not understand the DHS s--- too well. But, there's around 50 majority-muslim countries. he stopped 7. which is what 12.5% (?) so less than 20% of the majority-muslim countries are banned it's somehow a ban on immigration "due to religion or nationality" if it was due to religion/nationality don't you think it'd be all 50 countries? (or 50 countries minus the few Trump does business with because he's more important than everyone else)

 

Jan 30, 2017

has this been posted yet LOL

 

Jan 31, 2017

Because there's no legitimate reason for it. 0 Americans have died in terrorist attacks on U.S. soil committed by citizens of the countries trump banned. No refugee relocated to the United States since 1980 has been implicated of a terrorist attack. I posted this video earlier but it breaks it down further:



The fear of refugees in the U.S. is irrational. This idea that our vetting system needs to be fixed or anything of that sort is bs.

Because people with valid visas are trapped over seas unsure if they'll be able to come home to their families. Yes there's a waiver process for those individuals but being allowed into the country after the waiver is not gaurenteed. The fact that legal residents of this country are not being allowed in is a big deal. They are being treated as inferior.

Well trump's administration isn't [totally] stupid. An outright ban on all Muslim-majority countries would be a case easily won by democrats in the courts. This way he only banned seven in which he can hide behind the fact that this list wasn't even created by him, not all muslims are prohibited from entering the country, he's doing it for national security purposes etc. Only banning these seven countries basically gives him a better legal argument. Once again though: the fact that the statistics on terrorism committed by refugees and citizens of these several countries don't side with him--could still lose him the legal battle. If there's no statistical basis to his banning, what's he doing it based on? Religion and nationality.

 

Jan 31, 2017

“American values are at stake”

Yeah, Sharia law surely represents American values.

 

Jan 31, 2017

It's irrational for Americans to be fearful of Muslim immigrants when we've had one terrorist attack after another in this country? When the FBI chief says not all Syrian refugees can be vetted properly? When a top DHS official admits that a significant number of refugees have been convicted of terrorist crimes, and that some refugees are allowed in based on their testimony alone?

You keep saying there have been no terrorist attacks by refugees, that's fantastic! We'd like to keep it that way!

This refugee crisis is largely your failed president Hussein's fault anyway. That doesn't mean the whole country should have to pay for it.

 

Jan 31, 2017

I get what you're saying but terrorist attacks isn't the only thing immigrants are capable of.

Germany and europe are migrant-f----- atm. (my nets f---ing up atm, but google it youll find articles about this dodgy s--- everwhere, among police saying higher-ups are saying they ahve to cover-up the rapes)
http://www.news.com.au/finance/econ...c/news-story/e2e618e17ad4400b5ed65045e65e141d
Australia (my state included) experienced some years ago, troubles with somali and sudanese immigrants.

Julie bishop's stance on the Trump bans

(oh, look at this, a politician from Australia supports trump's stance on his immigration bans, almost as if she understands not every immigrant is amazing and has experienced non-terrorist immigrants causing a shitfest)
if you come (or flee) from a country riddled by war and Obama's airstrikes, you're seeing this s--- first hand. you're seeing this violence, war, loss of life, tragedy etc.
"YES THATS WHY WE MUST LET THEM IN!"
well yeah, we should, but when you are accustomed to that kind of lifestyle, you aren't as sane as someone who hasn't experienced these things.

PTSD, Anxiety, Paranoid schizophrenia, shell shock, ADHD, depression, bi polar disorder, sleep disorders, substance abuse/dependence are all common factors in people who have experienced war. These people LIVE in the war, so If anything they are more likely to experience these disorders, as opposed to military members who have easy access to counseling/medication.

just because there's been 0 terrorist attacks on your soil, from the 7 countries that were banned, doesn't mean every immigrant is an angel. immigration has a lot of problems and the world needs a better view/understanding on it. instead of "LET THEM IN"
it should be
"help them get counseling cause they've seen some f---ing s---, then allow them to migrate into the country" it makes more sense. It helps them and defeats just about every chance of them being mentally ill, or an extremist.

oh and, u say there's been 0 terrorist attacks on US soil from those countries... ok - great point. BUT, Obama dropped over 26,000 bombs in 2016 over the countries of;
-Afghanistan
-Pakistan
-Libya
-Yemen
-Somalia
-Iraq
-Syria
(the underlined ones are countries trump's ban affects)
Do you really want immigrants from a country your president last year bombed the absolute f--- out of?
3 airstrikes every hour for an entire year. They see/hear/experience these airstrikes, collateral damage happens, who do they blame?
do you think they're just like "oh man its so bad here, lets flee to the country that's f---ing bombing us to death" ??????????????????????????????????

 

Jan 31, 2017

 

Jan 31, 2017

anyone see the s--- about the firing that happened yesterday?

 

Jan 31, 2017

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...rump-s-top-guy-told-me-he-was-a-leninist.html

This pretty much summarizes why things are happening the way they are.


I met Steve Bannon—the executive director of Breitbart.com who’s now become the chief executive of the Trump campaign, replacing the newly resigned Paul Manafort—at a book party held in his Capitol Hill townhouse on Nov. 12, 2013. We were standing next to a picture of his daughter, a West Point graduate, who at the time was a lieutenant in the 101 Airborne Division serving in Iraq. The picture was notable because she was sitting on what was once Saddam Hussein’s gold throne with a machine gun on her lap. “I’m very proud of her,” Bannon said.

Then we had a long talk about his approach to politics. He never called himself a “populist” or an “American nationalist,” as so many think of him today. “I’m a Leninist,” Bannon proudly proclaimed.

Shocked, I asked him what he meant.

“Lenin,” he answered, “wanted to destroy the state, and that’s my goal too. I want to bring everything crashing down, and destroy all of today’s establishment.” Bannon was employing Lenin’s strategy for Tea Party populist goals. He included in that group the Republican and Democratic Parties, as well as the traditional conservative press.

I emailed Bannon last week recalling our conversation, telling him that I planned to write about it and asking him if he wanted to comment on or correct my account of it. He responded:

“I don’t remember meeting you and don’t remember the conversation. And as u can tell from the past few days I am not doing media.”

Donald Trump Has Made Some Big Changes To His Campaign Staff ... Again

Trump tapped Breitbart News' Stephen Bannon as his campaign chief executive and promoted pollster Kellyanne Conway to campaign manager.

Riding on the Metro to the party, I read an article that had just been posted on National Review Online and inTownHall.com by Thomas Sowell, the conservative economist, in which he opposed the tactics used by the Tea Party in shutting down the government. He favored the intent of the Tea Party, but strongly opposed its tactics. "The only question," he wrote, "is about the tactics, the Tea Party's attempt to defund Obamacare." Their actions did not fit the standard set by Edmund Burke, he wrote, of a "rational endeavour." There was no chance of making a dent in ObamaCare or defunding it when Democrats controlled the Senate. and the public created a "backlash against that futile attempt," so that "there was virtually nothing to gain politically and much to lose."

I then asked Bannon whether or not he had read Sowell's piece, since Bannon was in favor of the very Tea Party tactic that Sowell had criticized.

“National Review and The Weekly Standard,” he said, “are both left-wing magazines, and I want to destroy them also.” He added that “no one reads them or cares what they say.” His goal was to bring down the entire establishment including the leaders of the Republican Party in Congress. He went on to tell me that he was the East Coast coordinator of all the Tea Party groups. His plan was to get its candidates nominated on the Republican ticket, and then to back campaigns that they could win. Then, Bannon said, when elected they would be held accountable to fight for the agenda he and the Tea Party stood for.

If they didn’t, “we would force them out of office and oppose them when the next election for their seats came around.”

That, essentially, was the tactic employed when Eric Cantor was ousted by a far right candidate, virtually unknown college economics professor Dave Brat, in his Virginia district’s primary.

 

Jan 31, 2017

This has already been established though. Foreigners in the U.S. commit violence at a much lower rate than natural-born citizens or even compared to their children born here. And the U.S.'s position with the refugee crisis is much different than European countries. Europe is connected to the Middle East by land so they get thousands of these refugees at their front door every month. This is overwhelming them and prohibits them from being to prepare and vet these individuals properly. The U.S. is separated from the crisis by a huge body of water so that allows us to be able to vet, prepare and take in as many refugees as we want/at the pace that we want.

Look, I get what you're saying but the U.S. has been accepting refugees for decades. Throughout the gulf war, Iraq war, Afghanistan war, etc. these type of issues may seem logical and the conclusions you're coming to seems logical but they're just not happening here on any type of big scale. A vast majority of refugees that are relocated here are law abiding. They tend to stay out of trouble and just try to get by like the rest of us. This theory that refugees are coming here and are retaliating against the U.S. for bombing their home country, it's just not happening. You can probably attribute that to our rigorous refugee process. The hardest way to come into the U.S. is as a refugee. On average the process takes 18-24 months. It has clearly been working as well.

 

Jan 31, 2017

Absolutely disgusting.... what message does that send that the president can and will fire any high level public official that disagrees with him?

 

Jan 31, 2017

To get a little less serious for a minute, smoked a blunt for my homie's bday last night and couldn't stop watching the scream that doomed Howard Dean.

 

Jan 31, 2017

the ironic thing is
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...-attorney-general_us_589014e3e4b0c90efeffc842

 

Jan 31, 2017

Has anybody ever woken up one morning thinking "Hey you know what? I'm really jonesin' for some more refugees over here."

 

Jan 31, 2017

To believe that scream tanked a presidential campaign is crazy lol

LMFAO....yeah, so much for that.

 

Jan 31, 2017

WHAT MESSAGE? SUBVERSIVES WILL NOT BE TOLERATED

 

Jan 31, 2017

Holy s--- this is an embarrassing rant by this BLM supporter/anti-Trump protester. He calls for the killing of white people and for white people to give all their money and property to black people.

 

Jan 31, 2017

 

Jan 31, 2017

Think it might be a she now actually, not sure..But either way it's pretty disturbing that this person is supposedly a pre-school teacher.

 

Jan 31, 2017

Trump fam