Politics The Official Donald Trump Administration Thread

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  1. Enigma
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    Literally begging for impeachment.
     
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  2. M Solo
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    Impeachment-worthy for any other president. But unfortunately this is just another day in the Trump era.
     
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  3. Enigma
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    If it’s not impeachment worthy for him, it won’t be impeachment worthy for any future president either. That’s the scary part.
     
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    ^ Lol the U.S. has been coddling the Saudis at least since the Obama era. Grow up and stop being a partisan
     
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    Lol... why would go to Obama? Obama was downright an a------ to the Saudis during the Arab Spring... the Bush family are basically Saudi Royals.
     
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  6. Enigma
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    Ooof
     
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  7. Enigma
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    The president wanted to s---t migrants at the border.
     
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    Actually yes you can. The president has already dispelled this Fake News
     
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  9. Alchemist34
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    Does Trump getting impeached rely on them proving the phone calls happened or just whether they're impeachment worthy?
     
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  10. Enigma
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    The call to the Ukrainian President? They happened. The White House has fully admitted those conversations took place. They even released a summary “transcript” of the conversation which they thought would make the situation go away but made it far worse. House Democrats have pretty much concluded Trump’s offering of military aid for a Biden investigation is an impeachable offense. Now they’re just collecting as much evidence as possible to use against him in a potential trial in the senate.

    End game will be pretty much this: Democrats will vote to impeach in the house (they have a majority & that’s all they need). It’ll get sent to Mitch McConnell in the senate & he’ll probably(?) hold a trial at this point since public opinion polls are favoring impeachment right now. McConnell being majority leader & Rep’s having a majority in the senate will layout the rules of the trial. The trial will probably be very restrictive & extremely fast. McConnell will push it along as fast as he can & Republicans will vote to acquit Trump in the senate.
     
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  11. dkdnfbdjdkdddjdjfvcgfl
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    trump rly went "peace the f--- out" to the kurds and straight up just flipped sides and allied with turkey on their coming invasion in northern syria. straight up trash president.
     
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  12. dkdnfbdjdkdddjdjfvcgfl
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    we rly need some kinda new ammendment that redraws/adds to/improves on the current way the separation of powers works. the whole "having the senate or house on your side" basically makes you invincible.

    what do you predict'll happen after he gets acquitted, criminal charges after he & his cabinet goons leave office? or they get away scot free?
     
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  13. Alchemist34
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    But just so I’m clear even if House Democrats and whoever else deemed it an impeachable offence and it goes all the way to trial, will that basically be the judge reviewing the evidence and handing his verdict? I’m just confused because reading things from pro Trump sources paint the picture that he won’t be impeached or at least has chances of not getting impeached, but other more anti trump sources make it sound like it’s a slam dunk case
     
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  14. Enigma
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    So it’s kind of confusing because the whole process is referred to as “impeachment” but in reality only The House has power to impeach. The Senate has the power to remove from office. So yes, it’s very likely Trump is impeached by the House & then acquitted by the Senate. Same thing happened to Bill Clinton: impeached by the House & acquitted in the Senate.

    When you read pro-Trump sources saying “oh he won’t get impeached...” they are likely referring to him being acquitted in the senate because the whole process is referred to as “impeachment” which makes things confusing.

    Best way to think of it:
    Impeachment = Investigation & charges established by the House
    Trial = determination if charges are legitimate/warrant removal from office by the Senate

    They need to do away with that horrible DOJ opinion that you cannot indict a sitting president. The president should absolutely be able to be indicted.

    He’ll do his victory lap & claim vindication of some sort. After this whole process is over & everything is out in the public, it’ll be really difficult for him to change public perception though. I said even before the Mueller Report came out that he’s probably going to be charged with various crimes once he’s out of office. If he loses in 2020, I wouldn’t be surprised if he went the Nixon route. Resigning like 2 weeks before the inauguration & having Pence pardon him of any crimes he may have committed while in office.
     
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  15. Alchemist34
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    So you agree that at the end of it all Trump won't be removed from office?
     
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  16. dna hits
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    Enigma has been saying trump will be impeached since 2016 lol He can’t get it through his head, it’s just not going to happen. And the Democrats have no one who stands a chance against Trump, which is sad.
     
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  17. Alchemist34
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    Right but he said even if Trump is impeached he'll likely be acquitted by the senate anyway...so he won't be removed from office. Which makes him getting impeached in the first place irrelevant doesn't it? I was excited that this was gonna be some big court trial battle proving/disproving allegations. Seems like it's more about the bigger picture of bringing things out in public etc or maybe getting him charged once he's out of office. But who cares at that point he'll have finished his term anyway or maybe get pardoned lol. MAGA wins
     
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  18. dna hits
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    Right. It’ll be similar to Clinton. He could be impeached, but they will still agree to let him finish his term in office. They don’t have enough on him to completely impeach him out of office. If the Feds have enough evidence, they could arrest him the day he’s done being the president then that could result him in not being aloud to run for president. However, that’s wishful thinking and they already wasted a ton of money investigating trump over nothing in the end. The Democrats are just angry trump beat Clinton and they have no candidates that can beat trump, and they know it. So they come up with new conspiracy theories every few weeks to try and impeach trump and nothing happens and nothing will ever happen. There has always been corruption in the White House. The Democrats try and make trump out to be some monster when in reality, there has been way more corrupt presidents. Nixon for one and I could go on.
     
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  19. Alchemist34
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    It is the nature of politics to exploit your rival’s weakness. The problem is Trump is far too reckless and actually r-----ed. A capable president makes sure not to give his rivals that much ammo to use against him. Like what is this phone call fabricated or something? Trump actually had that phone conversation with Ukraine didn’t he? Regardless of what his intentions were did he not know it can backfire? Hasn’t he learned by now to think before he does things or how he goes about doing them? This isn’t dark age Europe politics. Whether you’re corrupt as f--- or genuine you can’t just steamroll your way through today’s politics being assertive and straightforward alone. If any of this actually ended up getting him removed from office or losing the 2020 election that just shows he’s plainly incapable to be president of the U.S
     
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  20. Enigma
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    Yes. It would take a massive shift in public opinion for him to be removed from office. Like support for impeachment among independents is around 40-45%, that would need to be like 70%+. It would take something drastic for Mitch McConnell to move forward with removal & if it got to that, he’d probably just tell Trump to resign or else he’d be removed by the Senate.

    It’s a precedent which is what’s most important. The U.S. government functions off precedent. If Democrats let Trump off the hook for all the s--- he’s done, that sets precedent for future presidents to be able to come in & abuse the presidency as he’s done. This process, at the very least, shows that there are consequences for abusing those powers.

    I also think making all this information public is good. With a president who’s a pathological liar & an administration who runs a very effective propaganda campaign, setting the record straight is important—especially ahead of 2020. It also puts pressure on Republicans to either have to condemn the face/leader of their party or defend his actions. Not a pleasant place to be in with 2020 around the corner.

    This is bs. If Mitch McConnell cared about the country more than his party, Donald Trump would be removed from office. He doesn’t though & impeachment is a political process so...here we are.
     
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