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Top 10 Rappers of the decade

Started by MichaelsMad, Dec 25, 2019, in Music Add to Reading List

  1. Sav Stanfield
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    Sav Stanfield

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    What is 'real' hip hop? Does it mean the rapper has to have a certain accent, rap only about certain topics and rap on a specific type of beat with a specific type of flow? Are you saying that the artists I listed shouldn't be classified as hip hop?

    If you're talking about where hip hop originally comes from are you referring to the block parties of the 70s and 80s that were just about having a good time? Should rappers all strive to sound like Kurtis Blow? Run-DMC? Or is it specifically defined to that era in the 90s where some rappers who focused on creating very heady densely lyrical music became popular for a while?

    Absolutely true, you are entirely entitled your own opinion. But like I said, I think you're a bit out of touch. You've said so yourself. Your list of albums of the decade (in the other thread) dont have any albums from after 2015. Hip hop became the most popular genre in the US in 2017. Don't you think you might have a bit of a skewed perspective on what 'real' hip hop is?
     
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  2. Michael Myers
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    Well I am a little bit of a dusthead sometimes because finding new artists takes up time that I wanna listen to artist and music I do like.

    And yeah it took me a while but then again; 13 years ago I hated Lil Wayne and his 's-----y' voice. In 2019 he's in my top 5 OAT. I was used to listen to the more traditional rappers but after giving lots of artist a fair chance I now listen to thug, future, yg, kevin gates, da baby, kodak, greedo, curry. Also I think you will like Freddie Gibbs!

    As far as the 'same beats' thing goes, people don't seem to understand me w that. When you pick any kanye album, or jay, or em, or snoop, nas etc.. 12 songs mostly have 12 different (co)producers and every song/beat sounds completely different to the others. When I listen to, lets say, Thugs So Much Fun, 80% of the production sounds the same to me. And I think its bad because Thug can do better imo. I heard him rap over Havana, Good Times, Take Care, For Y'all, Goodbyes etc etc and I wish he would do that more often. Same can be said about Future etc. I really don't mind trap beats at all, just an album full of them, no thanks. But I seem to be the only one having issues w that so nvm lol
     
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  3. Winter
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    Winter Super Comfy

    Dec 29, 2019
    Thread ruined, wipe the last two pages from existence
     
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    You're right on about Freddie Gibbs. He's actually one, if not my favorite current rapper and I just got into his stuff recently. He has amazing albums and mixtapes.

    Couldn't agree more about those guys using s-----y beats. It's not only about the way they rap for me, a lot of it has to do with those s-----y trap beats you mentionned earlier. The production on almost all of their songs sound cheap. The same hi-hats, generic sounding beats.

    There's just no way I can ever get into them, and I have tried many times. It's simply not for me. But there are a couple Thug songs that I do find pretty good. From Slime Season that are catchy. Just not my thing in general.

    I find it hard to come up with top rappers this decade. Most of the artists i'm a fan of released their best stuff in the mid or late 2000s and weren't as prominent during the 2010s.

    I've been expanding towards other artists though. Even some that have been around for a while like Killer Mike. He has some great stuff. Bun B as well. Discovered a lot of dope stuff just last night. I knew a lot of these guys but never really dove into their disclog.
     
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  5. Boos
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    Dec 29, 2019
    this is the exact s--- racist old grandpas were saying about the rap you love back in the 90s and 00s
     
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    How could you possibly bring up race in this discussion lol.

    Some of the biggest legends in hiphop have called these guys garbage.

    I thought this genre/trend was to appeal to teenagers who don't know any better. Just having a hard time Imagine a grown a--- man being a fan of mumble rap lol.
     
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  7. Wreckless
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    Wreckless

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    Not liking a new trend doesn't mean being out of touch. All the albums I listed are modern and have been released this decade.

    Saying i'm out of touch because i'm not into mumble rap is ridiculous.

    Anyway, I don't think we will come to an agreement on this topic. Especially if you view those guys as top rappers while I consider them to be absolute trash lol.

    We will have to agree to disagree.
     
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    Enez Purple Heats Forever

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    HIP HOP IS DEAD! REAL RAP IN THE GRAVE!
    [​IMG]

    all im seeing
     
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  9. DKC
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    DKC shortygonletmecrush

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    Here's the thing man: not liking the current trend doesn't make you out of touch per say. That's fine if you don't enjoy it. What makes you out of touch is your attitude toward it. You talk about new age rappers like their music is devoid of any value, and you claim that it's "not hip-hop" because it doesn't adhere to a certain set of requirements that you made up. Genres, hip-hop included, are always evolving. Back in the 70s, people thought it was sacrilege to RECORD hip-hop, because it was originally done live over a DJ.

    Replace 'legends in hiphop' with 'rockstars' and take out the word 'mumble' and this sounds exactly like something your grandpa or dad would have said about 90s rap lol

    As @Boos said, you're using the same arguments that boomers used to complain about 80s-90s rappers back in the day. They claimed it was devoid of substance and talked about how they couldn't understand anything they were saying.

    Like I said, it's fine if a lot of newer rappers aren't your thing. Yes, Future and Thug are a little hard to understand to the uninitiated, but if you did more than shuffle through a few songs you'd be able to understand them fine. And Future and Thug are great lyricists, they're just different types of lyricists than someone like, say, Ghostface. If you're looking for dense storytelling, then yeah, Ghostface is probably your thing. If you're looking for more free-association type writing, then Thug is probably your thing.

    JK Rowling is a good writer and James Joyce is a good writer but they're good writers for different reasons and their work shares pretty much no similarities. Someone who reads strictly fantasy isn't going to care for James Joyce and someone who reads strictly hardcore modernist literature isn't going to care for JK Rowling but that doesn't mean that they don't both have value.

    And lastly, some words from 21 Savage:
     
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  10. Wreckless
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    Wreckless

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    Listened to both these albums for the first time yesterday and today,

    Dave - Psychodrama
    Big K.R.I.T. - 4eva Is a Mighty Long Time

    Didn't like every single song on their albums but I can confidently say this s----s on anything the Migos or Lil Yachy of this world have ever dropped.

    Btw, why weren't these even listed, or at least Psychodrama which was released in 2019?

    Hiphop is not dead, it's just harder to find when those mumble rappers are being pushed over real artists.
     
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    DKC shortygonletmecrush

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    @Michael Myers why do you hate migos
     
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    Wreckless

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    The real question is, how can you listen to his "music"?

    Godfather Snoop know's what's up
     
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    Royce
    Benny
    Conway
    Crooked I
    Kendrick
    Budden
    Cole
    Wayne
    Joell Ortiz
    Westside Gunn
     
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    Wreckless

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    You are making some good points except this is not the same as an old man critizing hiphop.

    Mumble rap has been critized by hiphop fans and rappers alike more than any trend before.

    Whether it's the 80s, the 90s, there has been no era in rap where people are mumbling over the same trashy beats over and over again.

    Whether it's the 80s, 90s, or 2000s. Pick out any prominent artists of those decades and I guarantee you that you will understand what they're saying. And in most cases, there will be an actual message behind a lot of their songs.

    Mumble rap is the lowest form of HipHop. My point is that rhyming skills and delivering a message is a huge part of what makes someone a top rapper. If you strip away the words because you can barely understand anything they're saying, I'm not sure I would even call that hiphop.
     
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    DKC shortygonletmecrush

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    ...migos is three people

    Also migos were the ones who popularized that flow so if anything you should be criticizing other rappers for following suit, not them. And that flow's been around as far back as Chuck D. Was used a lot be three six/memphis rappers.
     
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    Wreckless

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    Eminem pretty much nailed it with this

    "Brain dead, eye drops
    Pain meds, cyclops
    They bed, iPod
    Maybach, my bach
    Trainwrecks, sidewalks
    Pay less, high-tops
    K-fed, iHop
    Playtex, icebox"'

    That's exactly how Migos and a lot of them sound. No substance, just spitting out words with no real meaning behind them. Not to mention it's always over the same trashy, generic beats.

    How anyone can call these guys top hiphop artists is beyond baffling. But I think I said my piece.

    [​IMG]
     
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    The fact that you use the term "mumble rap" in the first place shows to me you haven't spent enough time with a lot of the artists you're criticizing. My problem with the term "mumble rap" is that it's a disparaging term used to talk down to a group of diverse artists who rap in a certain (often southern) dialect and use copious amounts of regional slang. Kodak Black and Chief Keef and Young Thug sound nothing alike and if memory serves right have never even collaborated aside from a single Young Thug song that he gave to Kodak who pasted a verse on it, but people all use the term "mumble rap" to describe them. When people say "mumble rap" they just mean "rap I don't like because it doesn't fit inside the criteria I made up."

    Every era has a bunch of artists that sound the same and bite each other. We just forget most of them because they don't stand the test of time, and now music is so easily consumable with streaming that it's much easier to hear many different artists.

    Back in the day people who hated rap heard Nas, Wu-Tang, Biggie, Mobb Deep and said all sounds the same cuz it was grimy new york rap and they were offended by them talking about murder and drugs and said it has no value.
     
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    my dude this meme has EXTREME boomer energy

    Is it an overused flow? Yeah, but that doesn't mean all of it sounds the same lol
     
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    But you can understand every word Nas, Wu-Tang, Biggie and Mobb Deep said. And a lot of their s--- had a genuine message behind it.

    Not the same can be said about 90% of the s--- those guys you mentionned put out. Denying that is simply being ignorant.

    Look, I get that you're into "Mumble rap" or whatever you decide to call this recent trend of music which sounds very similar, but like a mentionned earlier, a huge part of being a rapper is about lyricism and substance and those guys have none. Or very close to none.

    You're allowed to enjoy whatever music you like, but calling those guys the best rappers is just wrong. And I don't think it's even debatable lol
     
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    Hate is a very strong word I just find them very boring. The adlibs at the end of every sentence was funny at first but started to annoy me pretty quick.

    Quavo was, at one point, hyped up by everyone while to me al he did was put me to sleep. Offset and Takeoff are decent rappers but I never got into their music even if I tried.

    @Tonshor at first I kinda understood where ur coming from but if you truly think thug, future's etc music is all without substance you really haven't given them a fair chance because that's just wrong man.

    What rappers, specifically are u talking about btw?
     
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