Politics Trump throwback

Started by Enigma, Oct 25, 2016, in Life Add to Reading List

  1. Michael Myers
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    Oct 29, 2016
    Glad 8 nov is over so the obsession over trump and hilary stops on here
     
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  2. Enigma
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

    Oct 29, 2016
    Same. It's going to be amazing to say I was alive during the presidency of the first black president and first woman president :allears: what a time to be alive.
     
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  3. Dislikeboy
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    Oct 29, 2016
    Nonsense. Just total nonsense. Do you seriously believe that open borders will have no impact on the country, the culture and the demographics in the next 8 years under Hillary? Our pathetic immigration policy has already done a number on us.

    “There is no evidence that shows undocumented immigrants commit crime at a higher rate than natural-born citizens.”
    What sort of argument is that? Your logic is all screwed up. Of course there’s more crime from legitimate citizens when they make up most of the population. Still, illegal immigrants accounted for 37% of federal sentences in FY 2014!

    Fearmongering? No basis in facts? What about the drug epidemic? According to the DEA, Mexico is the biggest supplier of heroin and m---. And what about the return of various communicable diseases like tuberculosis that we had all but eradicated?

    http://www.wnd.com/2014/06/deadly-diseases-crossing-border-with-illegals/
    http://dailycaller.com/2015/09/14/americas-heroin-epidemic-fueled-by-flood-of-illegal-immigrants/

    Your ignorance/denial is truly breathtaking. Jesus.
     
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  4. Enigma
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

    Oct 29, 2016
    http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/09/20/5-facts-about-illegal-immigration-in-the-u-s/

    If telling yourself that makes you feel better.

    Uhhhh this is why I referred to crime RATES and not overall raw data. Rates take into account population disproportion, that's the whole point of having rate-based statistics.


    The drug epidemic is more a criminal justice/healthcare issue than it is an immigration issue. The War on Drugs is a complete failure. We're never going to solve the drug problem in this country if we keep treating it as a crime issue rather than a public health issue.
     
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  5. Enigma
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

    Oct 29, 2016
    I google this and this is the first thing that pops up:

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...y-37-percent-of-federal-sentences-in-fy-2014/

    Are you joking me? lol that's not to mention they include immigration violations as part of the sentencing percentage. This is entirely misleading and you know it.
     
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  6. Dislikeboy
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    Oct 29, 2016
    That's very scientific of you, but citing that as justification for open borders is pretty desperate. No one is saying that the crime rates are higher for illegal immigrants. Whenever I hear that argument, it just sounds like a sneaky evasion. It's usually left out that illegals account for a relatively large percentage of crime in this country. Even 13.6% is staggering, but might I remind you that illegally entering the country is a crime! Whether we have fewer illegal immigrants now is beside the point*. It's still a huge problem and it's going to get much worse if she wins.

    *I'm not totally convinced that this is true. Does that include the children of illegal immigrants? Contrary to popular opinion, no, the fact that they were born here does not automatically make them citizens.
    This is just dumb.
     
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  7. Enigma
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

    Oct 29, 2016
    @WPG idk how you do it. I've seen you argue with this guy for pages and after reading this, I'm pretty much done.


    You need to read the constitution.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution
     
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  8. WPG
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    WPG sxn80 Rory Gilmore

    Oct 29, 2016
    this is actually widely accepted by nearly every expert in the medical community and many in law enforcement. there's no coherent argument that a continuation of the war on drugs per se does anything but burn money, prop up the prison industry, and perpetuate violence. this is one of your worst opinions.
     
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    WPG sxn80 Rory Gilmore

    Oct 29, 2016
    i...like...what? have you ever read...anything? how do you open a computer and navigate to this website?
     
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    Oct 29, 2016
    Who knows how accurate this is, but new poll taken before the FBI announcement says they're neck and neck.

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/29/polit...ton-post-poll/0545PMStoryLink&linkId=30486185
     
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  11. Dislikeboy
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    Sigh. I have read the 14th Amendment. Apparently you haven’t. You didn't even read your own link.

    “… that every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.”

    Jacob Merritt Howard, the author of the Citizenship Clause, concluded, “It settles the great question of citizenship and removes all doubt as to what persons are or are not the citizens of the United States.”
    You know what, you're right. m--- should be totally legal.
    You’re faulting me for being thrown off by a stupid, elusive argument to begin with. See my last post for an actually salient point on the issue.

    Your boy clearly didn’t even read or study the Constitution. You had to come to his rescue, as usual. Too bad you’re not much smarter than he is. Man-made global warming, lol!
     
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  12. WPG
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    WPG sxn80 Rory Gilmore

    Oct 29, 2016
    there are very few things sadder than you racist, cloistered kids with mediocre minds who think you're exceptional.
     
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  13. Dislikeboy
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    I am the least racist person you've ever met.
     
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  14. WPG
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    WPG sxn80 Rory Gilmore

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    lol k
     
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  15. Lucy
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    Oct 29, 2016
    "boring, didn't read, shut the f--- up" - people who see kimuras posts
     
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  16. Lucy
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    He denied the racist part but failed to address anything else. Think you described him perfect
     
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    Oct 29, 2016
    To say “Nuh-uh! I'm smarter than you!” would be juvenile, almost as juvenile as him. But it sucks that he has to resort to calling me a racist when I've never said anything remotely racist on this board. Typical liberal cop-out.

    Not getting into another back and forth with you. Never, never wrestle with a pig. You always get dirty. And besides, the pig loves it.
     
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  18. Lucy
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    All of your posts read as if your 14 years old man.
    "I'm so above you I'm not getting into another back and forth but here's another back and forth"
     
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  19. Final
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    Final

    Oct 29, 2016
    Really hope we go into civil war and Obama brings martial law and remains president anything else is a plague on humanity this race is a disgrace to politics throughout history I'm so baffled how it's real and actually happening in modern times it's a literal TV show it makes America look so f---ing s-----y I'd rather we bomb more Japanese people, enslave more Africans and exterminate more Indians before participating in this political race it's a joke
     
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