Jan 8, 2016

see i think thats a very narrow way of looking at it. i think creativity in general plays the biggest role. not to mention, by best "pure rapper" i dont mean just "lyricism." i see that category encompassing everything from flow and delivery to the actual writing. and, in the end, its important to place everything in context, always. you shouldnt be approach future's writing the same way you do kendrick's, even if they're about the same topic. each artist has a pre-existing narrative and their own aesthetic. its about how well as a rapper you can execute that. what some people do, however, is preemptively discredit one style relative to another, which is for the birds and they shouldnt have any place in a critical discussion about rap

 

Jan 8, 2016

 

Jan 8, 2016

whats there to be mad at? i think its cute that i somehow bother certain posters so much that theyd make entire tracks about me lmao . im ignoring the thread becuase, historically, i basically always ignore dumb s--- like that. even though it always somehow seems to find me

i dont even like when people s--- on GRS too much lol

 

Jan 8, 2016

Come on I like both of you lol dont beef

 

Jan 8, 2016

you need to listen to more thug smh

edit: kendricks performance for the untitled track is more impressive than the rapping itself. contrastingly, nothing about thugs performances, from a technical POV, are nearly as impressive. yet in 2015 he was 100% a better rapper than kendrick on wax

 

Jan 8, 2016

m@d

 

Jan 8, 2016

derailing thread

 

Jan 8, 2016

well, I hold all the rappers to the same standard.

Like for example, I love Kendrick, he's a good lyricist but I don't consider him as a "great" lyricist. To me the last really amazing lyricist in mainstream music was Lupe.
And to me a rapper with a good flow is just being technical, not lyrical,... it's the same s--- for the rhymes & delivery,

 

Jan 8, 2016

ur the one derailing fam, i just came in to point out you got your joke in the title wrong

 

Jan 8, 2016

well see you cant compartmentalize the critique like that. its always about the overall picture, not boxes you check along the way

 

Jan 8, 2016

pure rapping ability? young thug wasn't even a top 10 RAPPER of 2015.

 

Jan 8, 2016

This is pretty much the first time I see a publication calling thug "best rapper of 2015" and it seems to me that they gave him this honour for the amount of projects he dropped, not for his rapping ability.

You can give him best album if you want, I would disagree with that but music is subjective so that's fine, but calling him "best rapper" is something else, the guy was basically ignoring a lot of other rappers being better than him...like Eminem alone was better even though his music was garbage.

 

Jan 8, 2016

i was talking about the general narrative that future's a workhorse/has crazy consistency etc. which is all true, but thug quite literally surpassed it last year and not a word was said

not after WATTBA

Well usually I'd say the one that comes out with the better project but that contradicts what i was trying to say. i get what you're saying though, but i was saying to the other guy, you have to consider all the different aspects of being a rapper and see which artists executes which aspects better and then by what margin. obviously things can get muddled by personal preference/taste, but as a critic (if you're one to call yourself that) you need to be able to take your bias out of it. Like, as far as writing, any other year i wouldve said obviously kendricks better. but in 2015 he failed in a lot of notable ways as a writer for me. While thug only continued to grown and expand on his skillset in that area. so, as far, as 2015, i think its actually clear when it comes to thug vs kendrick, but i get what you mean overall. if we were talking about their entire discogs thus far, it would probably come down to if you value thugs ability to craft melodies/flows/his cadence vs kendrick's conviction/narrative. and kendrick can flow extremely well and is very nimble actually (even if he didnt really exemplify that in 2015), so it would be close. very close. i stanned kendrick as well in case people forgot lol

 

Jan 8, 2016

people havent found a way to word why hes the best rapper alive properly yet, so most stay away from the topic lol

and just no @ the rest of ur post

 

Jan 8, 2016

I was just listening to this

thugga and guwop again