Jul 27, 2015

Sometimes I feel like I'm reading the same old thread

 

Jul 27, 2015

if he included them then toy soldiers would be the biggest hypocritical song ever created

 

Jul 27, 2015

yeah bully, monkey & canibitch def weren't for encore

 

Jul 27, 2015

like toy soldiers is a god d--- masterpiece

 

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Jul 27, 2015

Wow, never even thought of it as an unfinished Without Me beat.

 

Jul 27, 2015

Those sound like pretty big changes to me

 

Jul 27, 2015

He meant minor changes before the release.

 

Jul 27, 2015

rare as f---

 

Jul 27, 2015

That knowledge tho

 

Jul 27, 2015

I remember when it leaked vividly... I have a personal story that I'll spare you.

It was the night of the 2004 election or the day after...When I got it, I can't even capture the disappointment that was going through me when I played Evil Deeds for the first time.
By the time I got to the s-----y half of the album, I couldn't believe this was real. We all saw it coming the whole year. D12World, My Ballz, and now Encore. The VMA commercial with the Mosh instrumental had me all excited and I was in denial about Just Lose It. On D12World.com people swore he put a "fake" cd out for pressing and the real one was being guarded. That theory makes no sense in retrospect.

Sigh..

 

Jul 27, 2015

ah, I can't remember. That sounds possible. He was always a little b---- when Eminem related CDs leaked. Probably a ploy to get us to buy it.

 

Jul 27, 2015

Eminem was on drugs back then obviously but I remember he was a spiteful c---- & hated leaks with a passion. I do actually think he made alot of those s--- songs on purpose to annoy fans.

 

Jul 27, 2015

I remember all of this. jesus

 

Jul 27, 2015

I can give a few details from that time frame. For months the song Mosh was promoted as a big backlash against George Bush but it didn't get released when it was supposed to infact it was released AFTER the elections and obviously was nowhere near as vicious as it was made out to be which led to rumours of Eminem being made to re-record the song. It was also earlier in the year that Eminem came under fire from the leaked We As Americans song where he mentioned the President and supposedly wanted him dead.

I remember Jason on D12World talking about when Just Lose It was released and he called a friend to ask about it and the friend said is that the one where he goes ah ah ahhhhh in the hook and he laughed. Obviously people had heard the song long before it was released. Obviously they found it funny.

In the Winter of 2004, December, shortly after Encore was released Eminem went to the UK and appeared on the Tim Westwood show and filmed a performance for Like Toy Soldiers for Top Of The Pops, which was a big music show at the time and Eminem said on the Time Westwood show that he recorded 20 songs for Encore and the only thing he didn't like was the fact that you could only fit 80 minutes on a CD and he wishes he could have put them all on there but he put 3 on a bonus disc. Now minus the skits, there are 15 tracks on Encore. In 2005 Curtain Call was released and it was said in various interviews that the only NEW song on there was When I'm Gone and Eminem went into detail about it, Jimmy Iovine didn't like it, he felt like it was just a Mockingbird Part 2 and at that point Encore was only a year old so he felt like there was nothing new but Eminem explained that this is him telling the story in a different way, the big selling point was this NEW song. If Eminem really did record 20 songs for Encore, and 15 made the main album, 3 made the bonus CD, that makes a total of 18, the other songs on Curtain Call that were not previously released were Fack and Shake That and I think all fans would agree that the sound of Fack and Shake That, the production, the content, the overall vibe..........would easily fit on the Encore album so when you take the 15 songs on the Encore album, you add the 3 bonus tracks and Fack and Shake That, it gives you 20 songs. There is no doubt in my mind that Eminem gave fans the Encore album he wanted in 2004, the other 2 were simply kept back and ended up on Curtain Call. That is your Encore album. I know many of you wont believe it, you'll find some kind of conspiracy to back it up but what was released is what he wanted you to hear. People need to get this idea out of their head that there is hidden classics locked away in the vaults. It doesn't make sense to hide good songs. It makes good business sense to release the best music you have.


DId he release some songs to annoy his hardcore fans? No doubt. He references it quite often. There is one line in Big Weenie that slaps you right across the face with it. Absolutely he was angry at his fans that only want him to talk about being poor and hating his Mom and being sad and angry at the world. The truth is YEARS BEFORE Encore was even dreamt up Eminem was a self made millionaire. He was a millionaire by the year 2000. There was no need for him to rap about being angry at the world anymore and radio stations in Detroit not playing his music and whatever else he could be mad at. Fans just wanted him to stay that way because their life HAD NOT changed and it carries on to this day. You see the hate with Relapse, Recovery, MMLP2, Shady XV. You have those older fans that are still having a hard time in life, maybe a bad home life, maybe not a lot of money in the household, they have it hard and they absolutely will not accept that their rap hero Eminem is now a millionaire. It's the same with Dre and Chronic 2001, you have a lot of people in the hood still bumpin that album because that's what they ASPIRE to be, they want to be Dre, they want the big tall women with the big boobs out, the smoking of blunts and drinking beer and driving fast cars. It's like The Fast And The Furious movies. You have people sitting in the cinema watching it, dreaming, man............i wish that was my life. Driving the fast cars in the sunshine, nice women, shooting guns and getting paid. That's what goes on in people's minds and it's fake. It's fiction. It's not reality but it takes over their mind and when that happens it takes over their life and at that point the only thing left is anger and bitterness.

 

Jul 27, 2015

Didn't bother reading past this in the book you posted but it's absolutely false. The instrumental was played during the VMA's and there were rumblings it was a song called "Where I'm Standing" but other than that nobody knew a f---ing thing about it until it premiered on like the 19th of October. The title, content, ect... nobody had a clue about any of that until the song was heard. Cool fabricated story though, lying fa----.

 

Jul 28, 2015

When it was leaked, I hoped that It was a Decoy Album for the real Encore..... Man I was WRONG!!!