Aug 22, 2020In a lot of ways definitely, but as I said we have our issues (each country different) and EU as a whole some as well.
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yeah dat was rly my main point was just it’s not as simple as making a responsible or irresponsible choice in some places.
and that comparison wasn’t 1:1 for sure I’m just providing examples of how no matter how much u prepare, anything regarding American healthcare is far more economic in nature than moral, from birth to health complicationsOrdinary Joel, Michael Myers and Guma like this. -
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@Guma 2nd triple post of the thread. We call that a half narshskip, Ordinary Joel and Guma like this. -
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I suppose I disagree w this, that it’s proposed as a moral failing or irresponsibility and that somehow this position is more ethically sound.
There are many economic situations in american (And I imagine global) life where the reality of the situation is that if the “correct” answer is just not f---ing until u can afford a kid, then behaving “correctly” means getting about as much p---- as zeberdee by the time ur 35. Mating and affection are biological needs and any system or policy which demands u reject basic human needs is unjust to some degree.
beyond that, many jobs available to American young adults looking to start families don’t provide stable job security, and the social safety net is too low to reasonably guarantee a child could be provided for off those alone. Here in America we get the worst of both ends, declining wages (going on six decades) high taxes and poor social services despite that. even if u disagree with my first paragraph, the economic realities of the second make that an unrealistic view here in the statesRetiredAccount, Ordinary Joel and DKC like this. -
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JFK was the GOAT.Ordinary Joel, Guma and skip like this. -
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Won’t comment on abortion stances as I’m so far the opposite way it would simply be a clash of values not anything to rly debate. That being said idk the economic climate in Poland but perhaps pro life stances make more sense in countries where that doesn’t immediately f--- over huge amounts of poor peopleOrdinary Joel, Guma and Ricky like this. -
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I agree with you on that 100%.Ordinary Joel, Ricky and skip like this. -
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Yeah, but it kinda goes both ways in your country (or in any other). Both parties make the other look worse than they really are.Last edited: Aug 22, 2020Ordinary Joel, skip and Ricky like this.Dec 18, 2025(This ad goes away when signing up) -
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Old generation is easily manipulated, because of living most of their lifes under communist rule and don't really get how stuff is manipulated. They also don't get the Internet nor who really owns all of the media here. Some people do, but there is not much of them. As for people waking up: they are all too occupied by infighting and normal people are too occupied with working and their daily life to get it.Ordinary Joel, Ricky and DKC like this.Dec 18, 2025(This ad goes away when signing up) -
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Aug 22, 2020
Yeah I mean "Europe" isn't really much of a distinction cuz it's not a single country like the USA lol. I assumed he was talking about how stuff like socialized healthcare is "normal" in many parts of Europe but seen as super leftwing idea here. And how a lot of our more "traditional" democratic/leftwing candidates appeal to the center more than the far left.Ordinary Joel, Michael Myers and Guma like this. -
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Definitely on the far left on the American spectrum but would probably be closer to center-left in Europe.Ordinary Joel, skip and DKC like this. -
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It’s that cop out thing where u are “speaking ur mind” but u haven’t thought things out thoroughly and don’t hold strong convictions so if u were ever to get called out in a sincere way u can just be like “it’s a bit”Ordinary Joel, BIGFOOT and Guma like this. -
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4chan incarnatedOrdinary Joel, skip and BIGFOOT like this.Dec 18, 2025(This ad goes away when signing up) -
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back on topic I’ve gone pretty far left by American standards. Vice news and most liberal media is a psy op owned by Fox Media to trick the populace into thinking leftists are worried about safe spaces and sexist air conditioning instead of police brutality and income inequalityEnigma, Ordinary Joel and DKC like this. -
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Yeah, that's what I'm getting at and I did the same, but tbh out of sympathy lol. Just teasing the guy.Ordinary Joel, DKC and Michael Myers like this. -
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Who cares he's gone. I got mentioned and insulted by a few posters for weeks just because my opinion and I simply put them on ignore. Its easy. And even easier when the dude is ... gone for 4 years!Ordinary Joel, DKC and Guma like this. -
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tell me how you've been bullied irl and I'll compare notes with how narsh has been bullied irl. cuz we're codependent and I know everything about him so I can judge.Ordinary Joel, JEB and Guma like this. -
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I get @cpt awesome WPG joint acc obsession. I don't know about others though lol.Enigma, Ordinary Joel and lil uzi vert stan like this.Dec 18, 2025(This ad goes away when signing up)