Which of these 3 rappers will have the better legacy if they retired in 2003: Jay-Z, Eminem, or DMX?

Started by Kujaku67, Feb 15, 2021, in Music Add to Reading List

Who will have the best legacy?

  1. Jay-Z

    57.1%
  2. Eminem

    35.7%
  3. DMX

    7.1%
  1. Kujaku67
    Posts: 345
    Likes: 750
    Joined: Jul 9, 2020

    Feb 15, 2021
    If Jay retired after the Black Album, Em retired after Cheers(Obie's album), or DMX retired after Grand Champ, who do you think will have the best legacy in hip hop out of the 3?
     
    May 26, 2022
  2. RetiredAccount
    Posts: 11,797
    Likes: 22,235
    Joined: Nov 28, 2014

    RetiredAccount Big Time Stuntin Like My Daddy

    Feb 15, 2021
    Jay-Z imo. Post-03 Jay has his two weakest albums.
    Eminem ofc would be much closer to Jay in this universe.
    Don't think his later work has affected DMX's legacy that much.
     
    May 26, 2022
  3. Michael Myers
    Posts: 37,479
    Likes: 75,136
    Joined: Feb 28, 2011

    Michael Myers The Boogeyman Is Coming

    Feb 15, 2021
    Jay. Pretty much flawless till 2003.

    Em very close though maybe even tied.

    I'm glad they didn't tho because even if they released some average / bad stuff that might 'hurt' their legacy it also gave us music like WTT, MTBMB and lots of dope songs and features.

    Not really up to date w dmx so dunno about him
     
    May 26, 2022
  4. RetiredAccount
    Posts: 11,797
    Likes: 22,235
    Joined: Nov 28, 2014

    RetiredAccount Big Time Stuntin Like My Daddy

    Feb 15, 2021
    yeah lol, Kingdom Come, BP3 and MCHG are worth it if I get AG and 444.

    Encore, Recovery, MMLP2 and Revival are worth it if I get Relapse, MTBMB and Side B
     
    #4
    2
    Ordinary Joel and Michael Myers like this.
    2
    Ordinary Joel and Michael Myers like this.
    May 26, 2022
  5. hargydon
    Posts: 4,230
    Likes: 12,632
    Joined: Oct 7, 2016

    Feb 15, 2021
    This is a tough one, I think it’d be easier if Jay hadn’t put out 4:44.

    Edit: just read OP properly, even with the cut off I think it’s very similar, Jay & Em are pretty much tied & it would come down to personal preference. With them 2 being on my favourite list, I can’t decide.
     
    #5
    2
    Ordinary Joel and Kujaku67 like this.
    2
    Ordinary Joel and Kujaku67 like this.
    May 26, 2022
  6. Michael Myers
    Posts: 37,479
    Likes: 75,136
    Joined: Feb 28, 2011

    Michael Myers The Boogeyman Is Coming

    Feb 15, 2021
    Exactly. I mean in the end when people talk about an artist catalog they will count good and bad albums and look at the score..

    But in reality a bad album u can just delete of your phone / laptop or whatever. Every good album (or even song) is an extra piece of music I can enjoy, regardless if its surrounded by bad music.

    This is not a 'fair' way to judge an album or catalog, but to me every song or album I enjoy is cool to me and what I dont like, I don't listen. So like u said, f--- Revival and, for example, that R Kelly collab, wouldn't wanna miss out on Deja Vu and Lost Ones (for example)
     
    #6
    2
    Ordinary Joel and RetiredAccount like this.
    2
    Ordinary Joel and RetiredAccount like this.
    May 26, 2022
  7. Chrollo
    Posts: 3,377
    Likes: 11,507
    Joined: Apr 16, 2016

    Chrollo プレイボーイ

    Feb 15, 2021
    Jay Z could have retired in 2001 and would win this because that's when he started dating Beyonce. Nobody could top that.
     
    #7
    2
    Ordinary Joel and RetiredAccount like this.
    2
    Ordinary Joel and RetiredAccount like this.
    May 26, 2022
  8. RetiredAccount
    Posts: 11,797
    Likes: 22,235
    Joined: Nov 28, 2014

    RetiredAccount Big Time Stuntin Like My Daddy

    Feb 15, 2021
    Honestly it's only a few rappers where people obsess over their discog having to be close to perfect. Esp older rappers, nobody gives af if Ice Cube is putting out bad albums now, it's expected. He still made a run with three of the greatest albums ever in a row. Save for like, the song Accidental Racist, nobody is giving LL Cool J s--- about his modern output lol. Like I said above too, who cares what DMX releases unless its good. Snoop is still a legend even though he's had tremendous highs and lows after Doggystyle. Even 50, do people really care that his discog after GRODT starts declining? Obv not a good thing but no one is obssessing over it.

    Only really like Dre, Em, Jay, Kanye, Kendrick, Drake are people who are really like obsessing over every bad album in their discogs.
     
    #8
    6
    Ordinary Joel, Red, Kujaku67 and 3 others like this.
    6
    Ordinary Joel, Red, Kujaku67 and 3 others like this.
    May 26, 2022
  9. Michael Myers
    Posts: 37,479
    Likes: 75,136
    Joined: Feb 28, 2011

    Michael Myers The Boogeyman Is Coming

    Feb 15, 2021
    True true
     
    #9
    2
    Ordinary Joel and RetiredAccount like this.
    2
    Ordinary Joel and RetiredAccount like this.
    May 26, 2022
  10. 1999
    Posts: 16,157
    Likes: 33,316
    Joined: Dec 15, 2016

    Feb 15, 2021
    BP3 got some classics on it
     
    May 26, 2022
  11. Michael Myers
    Posts: 37,479
    Likes: 75,136
    Joined: Feb 28, 2011

    Michael Myers The Boogeyman Is Coming

    Feb 15, 2021
    So do most of their s-----y / average albums. Songs I wouldn't wanna miss out on tbh
     
    May 26, 2022
  12. RetiredAccount
    Posts: 11,797
    Likes: 22,235
    Joined: Nov 28, 2014

    RetiredAccount Big Time Stuntin Like My Daddy

    Feb 15, 2021
    yeah, it does. Doesn't mean its a good album lol.

    Forever Young is underrated asf.
     
    #12
    2
    Ordinary Joel and Michael Myers like this.
    2
    Ordinary Joel and Michael Myers like this.
    May 26, 2022
  13. Michael Myers
    Posts: 37,479
    Likes: 75,136
    Joined: Feb 28, 2011

    Michael Myers The Boogeyman Is Coming

    Feb 15, 2021
    Bro he finished his show (the one I attended) with it and all of us put up our lighters / phone lights during the chorus it was absolutely beautiful



    I almost shed a tear watching this too tbh so f---ing beautiful :mjcry: the fact that he lost his voice completely doesn't even matter lol

    But yeah I wouldn't wanna miss out on the good songs even it it means the album itself is average
     
    Ordinary Joel and RetiredAccount like this.
    May 26, 2022
  14. Winter
    Posts: 5,857
    Likes: 13,517
    Joined: Nov 24, 2014

    Winter Super Comfy

    Feb 15, 2021
    Jay had 8 albums to his name by the end of 2003 and was consistently great across all of them
     
    May 26, 2022
  15. Sav Stanfield
    Posts: 7,478
    Likes: 19,506
    Joined: Feb 15, 2011

    Sav Stanfield Moderator

    Feb 15, 2021
    Hov had an untouchable run. BP2 would have been his weakest but I've always thought its overhated.

    I don't DMX's legacy would have changed much. I mean he's only released... 2 albums? since Grand Champ? And they both went pretty under the radar. I dont think anyones been checking for new DMX since.

    Em would have had a mad solid legacy if he called it quits in 03. Nowhere near Jay's but still top tier
     
    #15
    1
    Ordinary Joel likes this.
    1
    Ordinary Joel likes this.
    May 26, 2022
  16. Jay Zeus
    Posts: 4,911
    Likes: 7,277
    Joined: Aug 7, 2011

    Jay Zeus I am the god-favored weed strain

    Feb 15, 2021
    Jay-Z easily. 2001? Eminem easily. 1999? DMX easily. All depends. 2003 though? Jay-Z, all the way. By then, Jay's catalog was d----near close to perfect. Straight From The Lap EP and some of D12 World's tracks had already leaked. My Band came out and I knew it was the end of Em being in his prime by then. Oh, and Grand Champ was a'ight. DMX's last solid album was "....And Then There Was X". That came out in 1999.
     
    #16
    1
    Ordinary Joel likes this.
    1
    Ordinary Joel likes this.
    May 26, 2022
  17. Red
    Posts: 279
    Likes: 440
    Joined: Dec 24, 2020

    Red Everybody Love Everybody

    Feb 15, 2021
    I still think Jay Z is mad overrated.
     
    #17
    1
    Ordinary Joel likes this.
    1
    Ordinary Joel likes this.
    May 26, 2022
  18. 1999
    Posts: 16,157
    Likes: 33,316
    Joined: Dec 15, 2016

    Feb 15, 2021
    Why?
     
    #18
    1
    Ordinary Joel likes this.
    1
    Ordinary Joel likes this.
    May 26, 2022
  19. Winter
    Posts: 5,857
    Likes: 13,517
    Joined: Nov 24, 2014

    Winter Super Comfy

    Feb 15, 2021
    It’s okay, we’re all wrong sometimes
     
    #19
    1
    Ordinary Joel likes this.
    1
    Ordinary Joel likes this.
    May 26, 2022
  20. Red
    Posts: 279
    Likes: 440
    Joined: Dec 24, 2020

    Red Everybody Love Everybody

    Feb 15, 2021
    let me correct that:
    Jay Z is mad overrated
     
    #20
    1
    Ordinary Joel likes this.
    1
    Ordinary Joel likes this.
    May 26, 2022