Sep 21, 2017 Jay Z and Tupac are the only other people that 40+ non-pop culture and non avid music people really know of, besides Eminem. Talking about the rap genre.
Sep 21, 2017 Yeah I guess I agree an everyone who knows pac will know both so I don't really know- either way its still a stupid question.
Sep 21, 2017 No you really can't bring Jay into the equation, shitloads of people don't know jay z or only know him as beyonces husband that raps
Sep 21, 2017 He's way closer to Eminem level recognition than Kanye, though. He's moderately in the discussion and level of Tupac and Eminem recognition.
Sep 21, 2017 Yeah we still lose Maybe but I don't see many younger people knowing or caring about who he is, as opposed to someone like Kanye or Kendrick. Same for pac and big or nas etc. whoever you want to put in there from the golden era.
Sep 21, 2017 4:44 related s--- was all I saw on my social media (Facebook, IG) for like 2 weeks during the 4th of July. Jay was a genius for the visuals, because they really resonated well with viral attention.
Sep 21, 2017 Eminem >>>>>>Tupac>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Jay Z >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Dre, Snoop>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Everyone else Talking about 'older' people, non avid music listeners, non-forum goers This is omitting current pop stars cause it's not fair to count people who are being blasted on tv and such right now
Sep 21, 2017 Not sure about that tbf. There’s no real way of quantifying it anyway. Beyonce and Jay Z have built an empire tho
Sep 21, 2017 Thinking about it Tyler was wayyyy off tbh Eminem dwarfs Kanye multiple times over to people who don't follow music or pop culture Like it is remarkable when you think about it, Ye has had a successful 15ish year run
Sep 21, 2017 yeah thinking about it I was wayyy off as well I still think he's gonna be more well known for his music though. He took the pop route in public eye
Sep 21, 2017 Like saying Eminem is ingrained into pop culture doesn't even describe it...Kanye is ingrained into pop culture. Eminem and his persona is a culture phenomenon
Sep 21, 2017 It's definitely thanks to his skin color but I think thats just the start of it, I think word of mouth is what really carried him
Sep 21, 2017 Him being white and 'okay for the whites to listen to' is like 80% of it. The culture was different back then to, things lasted longer there wasn't a flavor of the month things didn't just come and go.