Sep 10, 2020 Listened to it for the first time in years. Its a weird song. Has some awful parts but some good parts also. His voice is really annoying in parts of the song in 2020 where 2 min songs are common it goes on so long
Sep 10, 2020 Disagree with OP. I think it was a worthy single and did well at hiding what it was before the big reveal. Def had wow factor and still holds up now as a good continuation of the the original. 4th verse the obvious highlight apart from the toilet line. And good beat. Well, at least good in an album that lacked good beats. Only thing it was missing in my opinion was Dido on the hook. That would've brought the nostalgia back 100%. I understand why she wasn't, he didn't want people to guess what it was before hearing it. But a remix would be good with her on it.
Sep 10, 2020 Yeah, although it was an odd justification he didn't @ Dido on hook, being that 'it would have been obvious', like he hasn't hidden who's on many hooks already. Not a big deal though; Biggest flaw for me was the writing style - the third person writing style. Some people comment on how it doesn't feel as engaging as 'Stan', that's because the lyrics are not the dialogue, which is what made 'Stan' groundbreaking, the fact the lyrics were the dialogue and he acted out the words... Wheras here it's like any other rap storytelling track. And you can feel it, when it is in the 'car scene' when Matthew is 'talking', all of a sudden it feels alive "New plan, Stan - Slim, "chauvinist pig, drove in this big Lincoln town car" - this whole segment feels Stan-worthy again. Purely because it's from 1st person perspective. That is the magic which brings it alive... I'm amazed he didn't get that. But, great beat, hook and the outro - all those things combined kind of justify the track as a whole. Just, could have been better.
Sep 10, 2020 Flicked through the thread and was gonna make a post saying I’m surprised that so many people prefer the second part to the first, since the last verse is just an abridged version of the first three without the metaphor, but I got to the 4th page and I already made it in 2015. First part is still the best fwiw.
Sep 10, 2020 The content is the same but his delivery and beat change is what make me like the verse. It sounds so 'huge' But yeah the whole random serial killer song suddenly revealing to be a Stan sequel is what makes this great wont argue that.
Sep 10, 2020 I don't get it. It's the most "MMLP-ish" song we got on this album. It wasn't a good 'song', but it was dope storytelling with pretty nice reveal in the third verse. In my opinion it was the only right way to continue "Stan". Plus that f---ing 4th verse is one of Eminem's best work he's ever done.
