Eminem Why would Eminem have a lot of pop artists on next album if it's proven to not sell?

Started by Hip Hop Gawd, Mar 24, 2018, in Eminem Add to Reading List

  1. froboy6942
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    Mar 24, 2018
    It is a good song. Sing For The Moment is a classic. It is not just good. Walk On Water does not have any commercial appeal. It was an awful choice but he thought anything would work given the names. No one is bumping a song,requesting an emotional track for the radio, stream it, or whatever with no drums.
     
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  2. Johnny Guitar
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    Mar 24, 2018
    Knowing Em, he is probably gonna sit back, listen to and re-evaluate Revival;
    He's gonna compare it to his previous albums and then come to the conclusion that he needs to go back to rapping over DJ Khalil beats with Liz Rodriguez on the chorus.
     
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  3. Hip Hop Gawd
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    Mar 25, 2018
    If you had to pick a style from one song on Revival and make it a theme for the next album which one would it be? Believe? Offended? Framed?
     
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  4. HanSolo
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    Mar 25, 2018
    Lmao
     
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  5. HappyTreeFriends
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    HappyTreeFriends hi guys ;)

    Mar 25, 2018
    Critiquing Eminem is only gonna result in him trying to prove people wrong with a new album that ends in another flop.
     
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  6. Hip Hop Gawd
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    Mar 25, 2018
    Well maybe if that happens he'll need to RE-do the next album again and put out another album in response to their response. Like when you make a bad apology and have to apologize for your apology.

    Redemption
    ReRedemption

    Or might just call it Retry
     
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  7. HappyTreeFriends
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    HappyTreeFriends hi guys ;)

    Mar 25, 2018
    :kanye2:

    I think the next one should be called Reinvent
     
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  8. Hip Hop Gawd
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    Yea Reinvent or Reinvented. The ed at the end makes it sound more slick.
     
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  9. RecentEminemFan
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    Mar 25, 2018
    He should just call it Retired
     
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  10. Ids5621
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    Mar 25, 2018
    Reminder that like toy soldiers (a very slow song, not radio friendly at all be it in material or sound) was a number 1 song.
     
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  11. David26
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    Mar 26, 2018
    Walk on water is a good song
    Btw All on in revival is lazy as f---. Skylar grey wrote the concepts and the hooks. Eminem the verses and then paul looks some pop star to make a song. The result is bad music
     
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  12. Chaotic Progress
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    Mar 27, 2018
    Maybe because he's turned a corner there's no turning back from. I kind of thought that with Recovery to be honest.

    People have been saying 'Em's pop!' since 2000 lol, just for being pop-ular. But he never was. All his big singles, all his own work... were hip-hop. He might have catchied them up a bit but they were rap, they were hip-hop, with his hooks and he wasn't following trends or using s-----y formulas than every other rapper uses for a quick, cheap hit.

    Now it seems all he cares about is his verses. And he seems to have no problem pandering to studio heads and pathetic formulas - doing s--- like using s-----y pop-rap beats which are passed around behind the scenes like 'oh Flo Rida didn't use it, leme have it, and here's the hook CUT>PASTE', it's f---ing sad and pathetic. This is the guy who made Lose Yourself ffs.

    So I think he actually might do it again. It might not have worked for Revival but I'm sure Em will tell himself it's because of the Trump s---, tone that down and continue using these embarrassing formulas to desperately generate hits from young girls.

    Seems like he doesn't have the desire or maybe creativity to want to create the sound rather than just copy it and use templates. Lose Yourself didn't exist before he made it, as in... a rap song with a hook that big - I don't mean popularity wise I mean using just a rap voice like that, so dramatically (the production too. So big, yet still so authentic and unique to him. Nobody else would have rapped on that.That was an Eminem beat) - it felt so big, so new, he actually doesn't get enough credit for a ton of innovative things he's done outside of just rhyming and sylables. His hook game and the new places he took 'rap hooks' was crazy. But it seems he's happy to be lazy and hope for cheap hits and ruin his albums instead now.

    And he seems to be avoiding the elephant in the room. People have been yelling how sick they are of this desperate pop pandering for ages now and yet he's done it for 7 years, because I think he doesn't have the confidence to try and create big music himself, and he's also weak and insecure now and just doing what the label wants...

    Only in the Chlora remix did he finally address the backlash he couldn't avoid about it, up until now he's been addressing everything but "is it the length of my verses yo?, maybe they want more RiRi??" NO EM WE WANT YOU TO USE ALL HIP-HOP BEATS, DO PROPER - AUTHENTIC HOOKS AND PUT EFFORT INTO THE WHOLE SONGS INSTEAD OF BEING LAZY AND CHEAP.

    So I'm pretty positive we'll be seeing Adele, Bieber or whoever else is left (not many now aye?) all over the next tracklist. Because he or Paul/studio peeps will think it will work again regardless and maybe they just didn't push it right or the politics interfered or whatever. They've seen it work many times before so I'm sure they're not done yet.

    Em isn't interested in innovating now. He just wants hits. He's Britney.
     
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  13. thunderface
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    Mar 27, 2018
    I don't know, man. That fake tracklist did the rounds and I'd like to think the point was heard loud and clear. Also, with the trilogy rapped, I think Em will finally go in a new direction. I believe he's hungry for a classic, something universally appreciated.
     
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  14. Chaotic Progress
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    Well, I would have thought he was already hungry for a classic after:

    1. Coming back after a major "UHHHMM???" Album (Encore), after 4 and a half years...
    2. Getting a "Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhh????" response to (Relapse) that, although I think he did a great job there...
    3. Getting a "OKAY. i guess" response to his response to that

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    4. AIYT. I guesssss!?

    Response to MMLP2, the follow-up ti his masterpiece. Which he sh---ed on with formulas and turd music.

    Then he comes back with the most mixed-up, formulaic, commercial, bipolar dog turd of an album of his entire career after another 4 year wait??... So we're now talking > Encore, Relapse, Recovery, MMLP2 AND Revival - FIVE fkn albums in a row where he can't seem to make an album - which is - forget classic - but kind of mostly agreed to be 'f---ing great'... 14 years man...

    I think Em is incapable of making a great album now.

    He'll continue to make great tracks, don't get me wrong. But a great album? I think he's incapable. It's like Tyson in the later years; he could still POTENTIALLY knock someone out, and he'd still throw bombs, but his game as a whole was iffy as f--- and he was beaten by fkn journeyman. Em's lost it/his artistic purpose. And nah Em - my f---ing marbles ain't gone.
     
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  15. thunderface
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    I think there's good reason to believe her might be a different level of hungry after Revival's reception, being that it's the twilight of his career and he wants to cement that GOAT status. I wouldn't give up on him just yet.
     
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  16. SinisterSick
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    Mar 27, 2018
    Framed
     
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  17. Zebedee
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    He could make 100 classic albums in a row and will never cement his goat status. He’s already ruined it with 5 awful albums in a row. Too late now. His fall off will always be remembered more than his goat status.
     
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    PistolPistol Inappropriate? So be it. I don't see it..

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    Walk on Water is great for what it is.
     
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    PistolPistol Inappropriate? So be it. I don't see it..

    Mar 27, 2018
    I think offended .. hmmm
    Not sure
     
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    eddie313 MUSIC TO BE MURDERED BY

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