Sep 8, 2016

On an album where Eminem portrays himself as Slim Shady (a misogynistic, "fa---- hating", drug taking, abusive, almost cartoonish like character), the final verse of Stan provides a rare insight into the real Marshall Mathers. He advises Stan to seek professional help for his depression and tells him to treat his girlfriend better. The funny thing about the song is he actually says I seen this one s--- on the news a couple weeks ago that made me sick and proceeds to briefly describe what happened to Stan and his girlfriend.
The entire album is tongue in cheek and Stan's final verse was so pivotal to understanding that the outlandish statements and scenarios in his songs are FANTASY and in no way should they be taken literally. The song is genius in the way it addresses fans and critics at the same time, without the blatantly obvious "I'm just playing..." at the end of it and makes it even funnier that people still didn't get what the album was about.

 

Sep 8, 2016

'Maybe you just need to treat her better' - The guy who violently murdered his girlfriend on one of the highest selling albums of all time.

Advice

 

Sep 8, 2016

Even more genius than this is how on MMLP2 (the album where his 'past is catching up to him', precisely and literally on 'Bad Guy') it is strongly hinted that Matthew turned out to be gay.
("Irony's spectacular huh, Now who's a fa---- you punk?"

"This is for....Frank Ocean")

Eminem's homophobia and anti-f-- lines peppered throughout his career amplify the irony that the gay brother of Stan is the one to finally k--- him in real life (in context of the song)

And then a verse later even more inception is added in as Eminem makes it clear that Matthew and Stan act as symbols. That can be taken in many ways, again, with the supposed gay Matthew murdering Eminem.

Just really deep stuff

 

Sep 8, 2016

Or maybe his verse is make believe and everything else is real?

 

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Sep 8, 2016

Really good insight op

 

Sep 8, 2016

"I say that s--- just clowning, how f----- up is you?"

 

Sep 8, 2016

both songs are so goat

 

Sep 8, 2016

if i would've heard he was doing a sequel to stan beforehand i would've been very skeptical but he pulled it off very well

 

Sep 8, 2016

Agreed, especially coming from the guy who said a sequel to Stan dealing with Matthew would be corny.

 

Sep 8, 2016

I think Bad Guy is a joke.

 

Sep 8, 2016

you're like the only one with that opinion but ok

 

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Sep 9, 2016

There's also the link between Eminem and Matthew in the original song. He drives the point home too hard in Bad Guy but think about it. Eminem's uncle Ronnie (who was like a brother to Em) killed himself and so did Matthew's big brother.

I said all this on TR minus the gay stuff. That doesn't really have any baring on anything.

The link between Marshall and Matthew was clear in Stan and like everything else Eminem does lately like explaining his jokes he had to waste bars in Bad Guy explaining the link he established over a decade ago.

Bad Guy is written so amateurishly except for that last amazing verse...

 

Sep 9, 2016

I mean, the quality and writing of Bad Guy is a whole different can of worms

I'm just trying to explain the overarching genius themes in the song

 

Sep 9, 2016

I appreciate the contribution I just get sick of people comparing the songs like they're equals.

Although Stan had a girlfriend he was clearly obsessed with Eminem and thought they "should be together" so there was an element of that in the original