Week 5 Discussion: 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997

Started by DKC, Jun 8, 2021, in Life Add to Reading List

  1. DKC
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    @BookClub

    Picks:
    1994: The Notorious B.I.G. - “Juicy
    1995: 2Pac - “Dear Mama
    1996: 2Pac, Dr. Dre, & Roger Troutman - “California Love
    1997: Puff Daddy & Ma$e - “Can’t Nobody Hold Me Down

    Rebuttals:
    1994: Bone Thugs-N-Harmony - “Thuggish Ruggish Bone
    1995: Mobb Deep - “Shook Ones, Pt. II
    1996: Bone Thugs-N-Harmony - “Tha Crossroads
    1997: Missy Elliot - “The Rain

    Questions:

    1. Which picks do you agree with?
    2. Which picks do you disagree with—and do you agree with the rebuttals? If not, what song would you nominate?
    3. Importance (or lack thereof) aside, which of these songs do you like or dislike?
    4. Were there songs you'd never heard before?
    5. Discuss any interesting facts that stood out to you!

    Please ask any other questions you come up with!
     
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  2. DKC
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    Do you guys wanna go down to three chapters a week or give a bye week for catch up? Seems like a lotta people are behind. I'm good with whatever if it increases participation!
     
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    Jun 8, 2021
    That's a good question I'm good with whatever anyone else wants to do

    The only reason I'm behind is because I usually read it super late at night but I've been sleeping early so I gotta change my reading times lol
     
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    Im in need of a a bye week but don’t want to slow anyone else down. Just been flooded with work and traveling can’t seem to get a minute to catch up. So whatever works for the others is good for me
     
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    There’s not many people participating so I’m down for the bye week lol
     
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    95 is a real problem. Dear Mama is one of my favorite Hip Hop songs of all time (I have a soft spot for songs about mamas: Hey Mama by Kanye, Dear Mama, Dance by Nas and Mama by Kodak Black are all top tier). But Shook Ones Pt. II man... that's just not fair.

    Oh yeah and Tha Crossroads got sampled in one of my all time fav Lil B songs with production from Metro Boomin:
     
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    @BookClub bye week this week, so use this time to catch up and post your thoughts on any weeks you may have missed if you can!
     
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    Juicy was really good I liked what the song was about and biggie sounded good on it my only complaint is that it's maybe a little too poppy for good voice but it's not like we've haven't heard poppy songs on album before

    And with thuggish ruggish bone I think it sounds pretty good and I like the way they sound but this one was also a little corny with the singing at the end especially lol but I still think the song is [​IMG]
     
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    "Dear mama" is a great song even if it doesn't speak to me specifically and I'm also indifferent to the way the song sounds but it's way too important to not recognize the importance of it's existence

    "Shook ones part 2" I sorta prefer as a song on first listen compared to "dear mama" but there's not much to say about it as a whole

    Also I just want to add that story about Afeni not being able to have children before Tupac is f---ing crazy to me it's incredible

    also I might be an idiot but I knew of prodigy and mobb deep separately I didn't even know he was part of the group lmao


    I think everyone has at least heard the hook to "California Love" it's a classic song and I really liked the way Tupac sounded on it

    "Tha Crossroads" has a couple lines that sound odd with the context that it's about eazy-e but i I really enjoy the way it sounds for the most part


    I don't like "Can't nobody hold me down" that much imo like I think mase did really well and puff did what he had to do (minus the a------ line) but having the same beat and a slightly altering the hook to "The Message" just felt odd to me it just might be me though

    And with "The Rain" I was pretty indifferent to the song as a whole I'm not very fond of the beat and missy was way more laid back than I was expecting I also like the hook and I think the video is super f---ing strange but in a good way



    I'VE FINALLY f---ing CAUGHT UP
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    Appreciate the thoughtful posts @jankland — gonna finish catching up and respond later on the comp

    @BookClub we’re back after a bye week tomorrow, so catch up if you need to/you can!
     
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