Jul 19, 2017 Peep the last 5 minutes. Mal, who is Bigg's (Rocafella cofounder) brother said that when he was in LA last week they talked to Kanye and he said he's responding to the 4:44 shots in his new music and it's serious. He also made a joke about Jay not giving him the gems he dropped on the album earlier in his life. Edit: Around 1:33:00 https://soundcloud.com/joebuddenpodcast