Does influence equal talent?

Started by SHUDEYE, Jan 4, 2017, in Music Add to Reading List

  1. SHUDEYE
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    I often here people use influence as a point to prove an artist is good etc. Does it necessarily indicate an artist is good? Does other people doing what one does automatically equal greatness?
     
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    I mean people say Soulja Boy influenced whatever (I honestly don't know) but I think he is and always will be garbage. So if garbage creates more garbage how can that me good?
     
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    ridiculous thread
     
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    soulja boy talented and influential btw
     
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    this is like asking if sales = talent or critical acclaim = talent

    ofc not it just a noteworthy feat
     
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    Yes, you created a sound or did something that changed the way other artists after you went about their work. That's pretty impressive, and Soulja may look that hot in 2017 but you can't deny he's a legend if you look back at what he achieved at such a young age no matter if u f----- with his music or not.
     
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    So if I make s--- music and people like narsh start makin the same music does that automatically make it good?
     
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    obviously not but noone is even saying this like idk what you're responding to
     
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    What my point is: I feel like people use influence as a defense for a lot of artists when their talent is questioned and I'm asking if it is as concrete fact as people make out.
     
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    influence is the only objective measure for an artist

    lack of "skill" can be an art direction in itself, ala punk, yachty, etc.
     
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    couldn't give a s--- about how "influential" someone is if i don't like their music
     
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    ur rly influencing me bby
     
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    "X is s---"
    "Yeah but he influenced Y and Z"

    My main response to that a lot of the time is "so?"
     
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    Yeh thats kinda my point. If were talkin about a single artist's music I don't get the relevance of their "influence"
     
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    I don't get it, if you don't like it don't listen 2 it lol influence is more about legacy and an artists career accomplishments
     
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    Influence doesn't affect sound
     
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    ^he gets it
     
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    d--- buff
     
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    Obviously if I don't like it I'm not gonna listen to it that's not what I'm gettin it you big poofter
     
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    Tf are you saying then kunt?
     
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