Why are these rappers.....

Started by JulnHT, Sep 12, 2020, in Music Add to Reading List

  1. JulnHT
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    .... for the most of us the definition of cringe Rap?


    Dax
    Logic
    Joyner
    Token
    Tech N9ne
    Hopsin


    Real question?
     
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  2. Antman
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    Bc they’re corny and lack finesse to their craft.
     
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  3. JulnHT
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    related to their lyrics?
     
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    Their style, delivery, lyrics, ear for production, etc
     
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  5. Winter
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    A lot of it is probably a reaction to their fans, since they tend to get propped by by the obnoxious dusthead “Joyner is the only rapper talking about real s---!” crowd
     
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  6. aleeex1923
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    I don't think the fact that 10 people on a forum call them corny means that's how they are. You should ask yourself, do you enjoy their music ? if yes, good for you if they are corny to you they are corny only to you but for sure they have a lot of fans that don't share that opinion and support them.
     
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  7. Michael Myers
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    It depends who you ask. I just dont like their music and like Hopsin his dumb gimmick. But if u like them thats perfectly fine. I dont understand the appeal of gunna and migos either but lots of people do.

    But like Winter said.. its mostly fans talking s--- to eachother (like, "dusthead/reel rap vs mumble rapper fans") the same way its die hard Kanye and Em fans that are worse than their worst music actually is.
     
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  8. Jeans
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    I mean, have you listened to them?
     
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    It’s bigger than forums, chief. These guys a universally acclaimed for being cornballs. What internet are you on?
     
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  10. aleeex1923
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    My guy, do you think I listen to music based on the opinion of others from the internet? If I like something, I just do I don't give a s--- what random weirdos online think.
    I don't even listen to most of the artists op listed, maybe Logic I have like some tracks saved in my playlists and I do not think he's corny and thats the only opinion that matters to me when It comes to enjoying s--- and thats how it should be.
    I mean if you're 12 and you watch movies, listen to music and so on based only on reviews and you don't have the capacity to decide what you like and you don't, well don't worry you'll grow up one day.
     
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    The same reason why juggalos, racists and “reeel hip hawp” heads think they’re good rappers.
     
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  12. Jeans
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    The irony of it all is that the rappers in OP are the real ones listened to by 12 years olds who think it’s big boy music and deep. I, an adult, have refined tastes such as Roscoe P Coldchain. Relax Kiddo, no ones is attacking you. Just calling a spade a spade
     
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    I wasn't attacking you either when I said "you" I was talking generally.
    Indeed refined taste and I bet that you as an adult wouldn't give a f--- if someone would call those artists that you mentioned corny cause you enjoy their music and thats all that matters.
    All I'm trying to say is that nowadays people are more interested to push their opinion and taste to others and criticize what others like instead of focusing and enjoying what they like.
     
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  14. Michael Myers
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    Well I mean this is a discussion board.

    I 100% agree though that if u like something you shouldn't give a single f--- what others feel, or feel ashamed for liking something... but yeah if u give ur opinion on a message board people gonna respond / discuss or criticize ur opinion.
     
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  15. aleeex1923
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    Yeah totally agree with that, I mean if you open a thread and ask people hey what you think of this artist and people that don't like him say he's corny bla bla thats fine, I was just responding to him saying that they are "universally acclaimed" and also asking me "what internet are you on?"
     
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    Just because you like a rapper doesn’t mean they’re not corny. You can admit to that while still enjoying them. I agree with what you’re saying but it’s important to be honest with yourself too
     
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    You have a point yeah, fair enough!
     
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    Good to see some actual debate going on! I am gonna have @aleeex1972 back more so here though. At the end of the day, just because the majority say someone is "corny" doesn't make it a fact. You can't just get a million people to say an innocent man is a murderer and for that to all of a sudden alter history. It's an opinion.

    Personally, I like Logic's music. I think he's a dickhead but I like his music. The others on the list I can't say I'm really familiar with their music.
     
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    This 'objective vs subjective' discussion has been done several times and I always agree that in the end it is all subjective.

    I think hopsin is a cornball with his fake eyes and stupid conspiracy songs (same as immortal technique). I dont listen to them but yeah if ur into their music thats fine. Who gets to decide that a rapper is corny? But also like I said we all present our opinions as facts here cuz else there would be no room for discussion lol
     
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  20. JulnHT
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    Don’t let @joeyp363 see this thread
     
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