Serious Do You Support the Death Penalty?

Started by DKC, Mar 19, 2021, in Life Add to Reading List

Do You Support the Death Penalty?

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  1. DKC
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    Mar 19, 2021
    @LifeSXN

    With some people calling for the death penalty in the ATL shooter thread, it made me wonder what peoples' opinions are here in general.

    Personally I do not support the death penalty even though there are some people who I think may "deserve" it. I don't think we/the government should have the right to decide who deserves to die because people have too many differing ideas as to who "deserves" to die and there's too much room for error. I don't trust our court system that much and there's no easy line to draw anyway. If someone is found innocent and exonerated years later, there's nothing you can do if they're already dead.
     
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  2. Sign Language
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    9 times out of 10 I don’t support the death penalty. Like you said, I don’t trust our court systems and too many innocent people die on death row.

    But in the case of mass shooters I’m not really opposed to them being put to death. Then again life in ADX Florence would be worse than death.
     
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  3. Chrollo
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    As much as I wish that pedophile b------s get their balls cut off and then left to die, my main concerns are still the countless misjudgements courts all over the world make. So no but kinda yes
     
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  4. Ricky
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    If guilt is proven and it's 100 % correct then I'm all for it. If you k---, you deserve to be killed.
     
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  5. BIGFOOT
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    Mar 19, 2021
    100 percent bro, those nonces deserve death.

    Over here weed dealers are punished more than sexual predators, the system is f----- smh.
     
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  6. JMG
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    Unless there is reasonable doubt then yes. Take the recent shooter for example.. Why throw him in jail and feed him for the rest of his life? He confessed to killing 8 people so his life is already over. Maybe then we could study his brain and we could actually get somewhere in preventing this. Let the families of victims decide maybe? Some might find comfort in his death.. but maybe some think its an easy way out. I mentioned he should be hung or stoned because I think it would make these people think twice. Make them fear a horrible death. Instead of just going to jail knowing your famous.

    But If there is any doubt then no.
     
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  7. DKC
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    If there's reasonable doubt then they wouldn't get convicted period in theory. But people have been proven guilty "beyond reasonable doubt" only to be proven innocent and exonerated years later like I said. It's less about this specific instance and more looking at the big picture. I wouldn't lose any sleep over this dude getting the death penalty, but the issue lies in where we draw the line in terms of who "deserves it" and the fact that the courts are flawed/imperfect.

    Studies have shown that the death penalty doesn't deter crime.
     
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  8. Mikey
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    no,
    It would be great to see paedophile's killed.

    But you would have people trying to frame people to get them killed.
     
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  9. Enigma
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

    Mar 19, 2021
    I don’t think it’s morally/ethically indefensible for certain crimes but in practice, yes, I oppose it. In general, I would like a criminal justice system that is far more focused on rehabilitation than punishment. The death penalty just seems inconsistent with that idea.

    I’ve even began to question my position on life imprisonment. Some studies show that 20-25 year max sentencing is really all that’s necessary to deter individuals from committing crimes. It largely has to do with age: if you’re convicted of armed robbery at 25, the chances of you committing that crime again at the age of 45-50 is very low. I’d need to see more data on this though to fully embrace it.
     
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  10. WPG
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    Mar 19, 2021
    there are a million practical arguments against it: the cost, which—appeal legal fees included—is astronomical; the chance of wrongly executing someone; the fact that it has not shown to be an effective deterrent. but the bottom line is the state should not be in the business of killing people.
     
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    I’ve read about this before. The study I read talked about how Norway only gives a maximum sentence of 20 or 21 years for any crime. Then after that term if you aren’t considered rehabilitated then they can extend your sentence a year at a time.
     
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  12. Worm
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    Pedophiles should be hung from town squares. There's no rehabilitation for them, and murderers who are proven guilty beyond a doubt, I think that should be up to the victims families. I know personally if someone killed someone close to me I would think death too fast of a sentence. I would rather they live in solitary confinement the rest of their lives with no chance of parole
     
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  13. JMG
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    Well if we are taking big picture then no I don't support it because innocent people die. I watched a movie or show on this recently.. forgot the name but pretty sure it was based on true story of innocent dude put to death. Not talking about Green Mile but thats another great example. These stories make me against it in general.
    I think the argument has to be more specific though and it all depends on the situation.

    Also I think maybe a more harsh death sentence could deter crime. I am not surprised at current studies because these people don't wanna live anyway. I'm sure they don't mind an easy way out.

    Also I am proud of people being able to debate like adults so far.
     
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  14. Lil Squeed
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    I'm almost 100% against it even though there are people that 100% deserve it - or even worse, you know?
     
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    Gulag data shows proof of this.
     
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    yeah, and to my point: i actually don't think it's contradictory at all to say that you believe a person deserves to die in some abstract moral sense, but also that we shouldn't give the state the power to execute them.
     
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  17. reservoirGod
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    Alaska is a ruby red state... but we are different from other red states... we never had the death penalty... and there is no push to get one.... we never even ever talk about it.


    It's only an issue in the lower 48. If it was abolished in every state.. it would just become a non issue.
     
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  18. Enigma
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    I know y’all mean child sex offenders/predators & I agree but I feel like we ought to do a better job distinguishing the two.

    Pedophillia is a psychiatric disorder that enables someone to be sexually attracted to prepubescent children.

    Child sex offender is someone who has actually sexually assaulted a child

    Someone can be a pedo & never sexually assaulted a child in their life. Some experts have indicated that most child sex offenders aren’t pedophiles either. They do it for the sense of power/strength like most other sexual offenders.

    I just think the distinction is important because we want the prior (pedos) to seek help before they become the later (child sex offenders) & it’s difficult to do that if society at large is saying to execute them in the streets lol.
     
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  19. Chrollo
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    Yeah I should have clarified that I mean child predators. I know that many pedophiles know that their attraction towards children is wrong and actively seek help without giving in to their urges. I'm not a professional so I don't know how the f--- you even develop such an attraction in the first place and if psychiatric treatment would eventually cure their abnormality. They need to be under supervision for life if needed (voluntarily or involuntarily).
     
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    I think society at a large has got it right on this one. I don't care what you call them, they belong in the ground. Seek help? Are you saying there is a cure? Castration maybe.. I'd rather not make them feel comfortable at all. Why give them an excuse?
     
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