Eminem Eminem Picture Painting Abilities

Started by Oldboy, Nov 11, 2017, in Eminem Add to Reading List

  1. Oldboy
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    most can agree that he doesnt make good sounding music anymore, and that is sad and true...but there is no rapper that can paint pictures as flawless as he can, we take his words for granted and we dont think of the depth he goes to showcase his point, the beginning of Walk on water

    Why are expectations so high? Is it the bar I set?
    My arms, I stretch, but I can’t reach
    A far cry from it, or it's in my grasp, but as
    Soon as I grab, squeeze
    I lose my grip like the flyin' trapeze

    if i had to bet, i bet you no other rapper can say the same in this poetic way, most rappers would say one way or another that they cant meet expectations, that if we assume they would be that honest and self aware, but how did Eminem do it? lets connect the first line and the last

    first he says he set a bar so high. he tries his best to stretch his arm, but he cant..he coulda stopped there..but he went on to say that he does sometimes grab it for a minute, but as soon as he strength his hold, he loses it...but lets talk about the trapeze word, that one word links the entire metaphor together , he started by setting a bar, like the one you have when you trapeze, then he stretch his arm...well you get the idea

    the depth he goes for is simply insane, lets go to another line in the song
    It's the curse of the standard
    That the first of the Mathers discs set
    Always in search of the verse that I haven't spit yet
    Will this step just be another misstep
    To tarnish whatever the legacy, love or respect

    the word "discs" felt unneeded in the second line, and i bet most rappers would not have used it and just said "mathers set" but then when you realize it perfect the rhymes of the entire verse it blows my mind, it feel very simple but i only see eminem doing this, lets see

    discs set
    spit yet
    misstep
    respect


    we take him for granted because, and i know this feels very stanish, he is bigger than hip hop, im sure @WPG knows rappers that can paint pictures this good, but in mainstream i fail to find one rapper that can be this poetic, its sad he cant make sonically good music anymore, hopefully he will soon, but let me remind you that this man once wrote these words
    Tryin' to recapture that lightning trapped in a bottle
    Twice, the magic that started
    It all, tragic portrait of an artist
    Tortured, trapped in his own drawings
    Tap into thoughts blacker and darker
    Than anything imaginable; here goes a wild stab in the dark

    it is very hard to compare him with someone who raps the same old hood with good and what have you, he is in a mucher more complex place
     
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    @Papa Andy @Big Cuntry what uthink?
     
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    also i would like to say, Eminem cant write about random stuff..he cant...he has to have a topic he believes in to rap, otherwise we will get rain man and just lose it
     
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    Koolo the essayer
     
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    Nov 11, 2017
    The analysis is quite accurate, I was feeling the same way.
    I actually wasn't listening to his 14-17 musical output at all but this track has me hooked onto it, and I feel Walk on Water is sonically quite appealing, do you feel the same way @Koolo ?
     
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    my man
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    Nov 11, 2017
    Truth. Great post.

    Also, I can't tell if he meant a pun with 'but as' as 'butter' in that first line. Seems likely, 'butter fingers' is a common concept and he's talking about losing grip, plus unlikely he wouldn't notice that or it'd be by accident.

    So that's some more dope wordplay, then when he says 'butter... flies' maybe he was also doubling back on the butter s---.
     
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    Another classic example even in a song I dont personally like too much (My Dad gones crazy from TES)

    '' My songs can make you cry,
    Take you by surprise
    and at the same time
    can make you dry your eyes
    with the same rhyme ''

    Not the only words fit so perfectly together in the flow, but the truth behind the metaphors and analogies he portrays.
    Em bars could single-handily make you cry, think and then motivate you back in the days.
     
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    Basically the conclusion is he should stop making music and write poems
     
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    Even modern em can very poetic when he isn't writing about shi--ing his diaper or mcdonalds or whatever. I remember commenting on his Trump freesyle that he's better at spoken word than making rap right now.
     
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    If you give this man a subject to rap about, he will take you on a rollercoaster ride.
     
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    Ya he can still be evocative in moments for sure
     
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    Nas is better imo
     
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    Ah man :lol6: :mynig2::stephena::whew: describes this post
     
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    He also continues the first metaphor in the third verse by using the "tightrope outta twine" line.

    Not many people can continue a metaphor 4mins later in a song without it sounding forced and obvious.
     
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    Nov 11, 2017
    This and his k--- For You verse were some of the most beautiful lyrics he has ever written. It is such a shame that the delivery makes his lyrics go from 10/10 to 6/10 at best. Im not hating on this song I actually love it. When Em is gone we will all look back on this song and wont help but break down :kdotcry:
     
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