Kanye West iTunes OCD has me confused about TLOP

Started by LLLMMMMFFFFFAAAAAAOOOOOO, Sep 20, 2016, in Kanye West Add to Reading List

  1. LLLMMMMFFFFFAAAAAAOOOOOO
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    Sep 20, 2016
    This is how i have it:

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    I separate bonus tracks into disc two while still going in order with song #s

    30 hours stated it was a bonus track

    But Fade is a single

    But no way Franks Track and SSI can be back to back on the same edition can they

    But Saint Pablo is the tours name

    But you can't add a outro to your album months after release


    ???????????? Idk.

    Thoughts? What do you guys do
     
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    The whole releasee for this was a mess thank God its over
     
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    There are no bonus tracks or discs.

    The whole thing is TLOP.
     
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    the whole think is a headache since day uno
     
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    Man they botched this release. They changed the album a couple times. It's no suprised it's still messed up
     
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    Iddddkkkkkkkk remember Kim snapped an alternate version of famous recently....
     
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    "This the bonus track"

    I know there's not actually two disc that's just how I personally divide albums with bonus tracks
     
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    There's not really a point in having bonus tracks anymore. Streaming albums have no length requirement and everyone who listens to TLOP views all 20 songs as the entire album.

    If an artist truly wants to separate the true album vs. "bonus tracks", they either need to specify with [BONUS TRACK] included in the song title, or simply leave these songs off the album entirely (similar to what Travis Scott did with Hooch and Kanye did with All Day). They're still part of the artist's catalog, available for streaming, just not the album.



    I'm personally against "bonus" tracks that drag down an album's quality just for the sake of including more songs
     
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  10. LLLMMMMFFFFFAAAAAAOOOOOO
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    Ehhhhh I guess were just on two different sides of the spectrum completely

    I never saw bonus tracks as something due to time restraints especially in this decade I always saw it as a way to give sales a slight boost with a popular song that's maybe a bit too dated to be included or would throw the flow of the tracklist off. A way to include a few giveaways for fans while banking a few extra bucks like Rodeo for example since you mentioned Travis. Had two bonus songs not due to any time restraints but more so what its intended for a "deluxe" version of a product avaliable. Couple extra songs different art few extra bucks.


    I don't feel The Hooch was ever intended for Birds realistically I'm sure it part of the sessions obviously but we only got it as a way to promote the radio show with an exclusive song premièred on said show. No radio show no The Hooch IMO.

    All Day was genuinely a single for an album we didn't get. Kanye is something else and always shifting from one idea to the next its not like that's all that wasn't included. We didn't get songs like I Feel Like That (officially) [which he recorded / premiered a music video for], Can U Be, Fall Out Of Heaven etc which all fit a similar mold. All Day was just the radio single for a less mainstream album.


    Now a few things I agree with. Stream exclusive albums do not need bonuses because when you pay for the subscription there's no incentive from a business stand point for the artist. Now they can just throw those songs on sound cloud and bank off them that way.

    With that being said I STILL don't know what to do with TLOP because Kanye doesn't fit the mold of other artist I STILL don't believe we will never get physicals or we have the final version when we've got snippet(s) of updated versions
     
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    Thank you for the input and putting real thought in it. Due to the uncertainty and no clear cut answers I'll move tlop back to one 20 song version since this album doesn't fit my usual criteria for seperating disc
     
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    Could of done much more with this..
    Why not include I Feel LiKe That, Fall Out of Heaven or FML? All fit the mood. Could of found better art too nothing about it feels real


    ALSO why not some of the sessions like Piss On Your Grave or all the others he gave away which originally were intended for a Kanye album
     
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    i don't even think kanye knows what's on the official album anymore, let alone which versions of each song made the cut.
     
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    Still confused as to why the old version of Famous was used in the video.
     
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    Because it's just what was on TLOP that I actually liked and wanted to keep plus the singles like all day and only one
     
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    Lolk
     
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    It is and it isn't. Everything after Wolves always felt like an encore of sorts to me, kinda like the bonus tracks on WTT. It's clear the album's 'arc' for lack of a better term ends with Wolves/Frank's track.

    https://forum.sectioneighty.com/so-help-me-god-swish-waves-mixtape-2-0-three-disc-collection.t58756/
     
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    Don't need it myself I'm not a big fan of these sort of comps unless there's just a f--- load of s--- from an era that ends up on nothing. Like my Days Before Birds comp is 37 songs. I would never pick and choose songs off an official project and mix them with some others to make a completely new album good looking out though
     
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