Music blogs thread

Started by Inland Empire Rapper, Jul 17, 2021, in Music Add to Reading List

  1. Inland Empire Rapper
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    Inland Empire Rapper My Life, Your Entertainment

    Jul 17, 2021
    Yeah I'm making a thread about music blogs because I need advice.

    So I have a music blog called "nodball" fka nerdazine and I'm having trouble growing it and building a reputation for it.

    I have tried a reddit ad to get potential writers to sign up for $3-8 per article but it got heavily downvoted and even got a snarky reddit comment. I honestly don't have much money even with the $3-8 per article payment which would of likely to drain my bank account faster than you can say halleluiah and I have no idea how to grow a music blog.

    I got the design, I got the vision but the thing I'm really lacking is how to get writers and how to get eyeballs to stay on the site.

    Other than that, talk about music blogs you own/run so we can exchange ideas/advice.
     
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  2. thecanibus
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    Jul 17, 2021
    Every music blog I’ve found on the last 8 years has been through Twitter. If your not utilising that’s channel to build impressions or link up with other creators id say that should be your number 1 goal at this point.
     
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  3. Altereagle416
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    Jul 18, 2021
    As a professional writer, gfy with $3-8 per article. I want to know where you came up with that arbitrary number.

    An early career journalist/ writer should be making .10 cents per word on an article. Meaning they should at bare minimum make $100 for a 1,000 word article.
    Look my guy, it isn't easy building a blog. It took me years to build traction. But if you make good content people will notice it. As for growing it, get on adsense like everyone else. If you have truly good content and people really f--- with your vision, you might be able to get some people to write for your blog for free so long as it's an occasional thing.

    And for the love of god, change your layout.

    My blog: https://deepfreezechillin.com/
     
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  4. BIGFOOT
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    BIGFOOT More than a myth

    Jul 18, 2021
    Bro lol 3 to 8 dollars is slavery
     
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  5. 1999
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    Jul 18, 2021
    Do you have enough traction on deepfreeze alone to live off of?
     
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  6. Inland Empire Rapper
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    Inland Empire Rapper My Life, Your Entertainment

    Jul 18, 2021
    I need advice. I know how to change the design, I just need ideas on what could be improved.
     
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  7. Altereagle416
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    Jul 18, 2021
    Honestly, not yet. But I’ve used it to help me freelance for Complex and other sites. Part of the reason is that I wasn't focused on making written content when I first started. It originally was a podcast, and the website was to host behind-the-scenes content.

    The layout isn't good. It looks outdated af. Look at modern magazine sites and their design and ask what you can do to make your site feel site more like them.
     
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  8. Australia
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    Jul 18, 2021
    Lol what? Excuse f---ing me, a picture says a thousand words and if you expect to start at $100 per article from nothing you're pretty f---ing entitled. Do you know how many hours of free/cheap work I had to do in my field to become a professional?
    Bruhziez this is tpk the autismo. It's not like he's a big brand able to hire employees. It's a homemade website that gets f--- all hits, people who lack experience should want to do it for free as a starting point (if they are passionate) to help both parties... Like anyone looking to earn income off this venture is fucken insane from the get go lmao
     
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  9. Wreckless
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    Jul 18, 2021
    You always sound frustrated in every post you make. Go get laid or something lol.
     
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  10. Altereagle416
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    Jul 18, 2021
    $100 per 1,000 words not per article. That's 10 cents. CENTS per word. Realistically, no beginner would be writing a 1,000 word feature from jump street. I'm just saying $3-8 per article is insulting and you need to pay for quality.

    Why should they build a brand with no equity? No traffic? What do they get out of it? Like I said, if there's people who really believe in the vision, they'll do it for for free but $3-8 per article is insulting and basically saying your writing isn't worth s---.
     
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  11. lil uzi vert stan
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    Jul 19, 2021
    lmao coco destroyed.
     
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  12. DKC
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    Jul 19, 2021
    If you can only afford to pay $3-$8 an article then don't even offer to pay at all. It's just insulting and writing is already so undervalued as it is. To start a blog you need at least one of the following:

    1. a large sum of money to pay writers a reasonable rate
    2. friends/writers who share your vision and/or will work for free
    3. the want to write for the sake of writing
    4. a niche focus that people can't get from P4K or Complex or Rolling Stone or XXL etc.

    Take it from someone who was involved in the creation of multiple rap blogs—it's a TON of work. We had:

    @Koolo designing and marketing and funding
    @Slyk coding and designing and writing
    @Mike Tyson designing and writing and blogging and using industry connects from JCN
    Me editing and writing and blogging

    And tons of other posters like @Captain Awesome AKA Papa @Narsh @Blaza @ODB @Peter Parker @Charlie Work @Flacko and a bunch more I'm sure I'm forgetting were doing some combination of writing and editing and blogging and social media stuff.

    All of us were working for free or actively spending money. I had an amazing time helping build it and have no regrets, but it wasn't sustainable in the longrun.

    So basically, what I'm saying is do the blog for yourself/love of the game cuz you're not gonna make money, or if you want to make money then pitch to other outlets.
     
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  13. DKC
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    DKC hank trill

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    Most writers do this too. I think the point is that no one should have to this free work/unpaid internship/unpaid apprenticeship bs.
     
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  14. Inland Empire Rapper
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    Inland Empire Rapper My Life, Your Entertainment

    Jul 19, 2021
    I'm doing it for the love but I would love to have other writers so it can feel like a collaborative effort/collective rather than just one guy desperately trying to get hits with his niche music blog. I figured $3-$8 was a good idea, guess not. I don't know of anybody who would want to write for free because everybody wants money thanks to people saying that "free exposure" is bs when the writing is supposed to be the foot in the door in itself.

    eventually the blog was going to be supported by donations but I'm not feeling the blog because it's hard to stand out with design/writing/concept/whatever. I don't even know how to draw an audience doing a "hidden gems" type of music blog. It's really hard.
     
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  15. Slyk
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    Slyk God made a prophet.

    Jul 20, 2021
    one of the most stressful times here tbh. trying to stay up to date with every breaking event and post an article + original content + weekly recaps + maintenance and all those whatnots + the forum side was unhealthy. i recall it f---ing with my real-life work. not good.
     
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  16. 1999
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    Jul 20, 2021
    Y'all should have pushed a YT channel with content. Would've been dope
     
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  17. Slyk
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    Slyk God made a prophet.

    Jul 20, 2021
    we're too ugly for that.
     
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  18. DKC
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    DKC hank trill

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    Yeah I'd pretty much work on the site from 8AM to 2PM and then go to my s--- grocery store job from 2PM to 10:30PM. Def bled into my personal life but I had fun doing it for the most part and am glad it ended when it did.
     
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  19. Altereagle416
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    Jul 20, 2021

    I sent you a DM. I’ll reiterate here:

    I can take you under my wing. Basically, I'll give you game on how to run your own blog in exchange for writing for me. So while you wouldn't be getting paid, you would get a link to your site from mine, I can explain to you how digital advertising works, and you build up credibility as a writer. You already know how to use WordPress, so that's a good start.

    My one requirement would be that you write 1 feature length article of 1,000 words about once a month. And I will assign you an article weeks ahead of time, so you can do research.

    For context, my blog got a little more than 9,000 visitors and 8,000 unique views last month.
     
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  20. DKC
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    DKC hank trill

    Jul 20, 2021
    That's a super dope mutually beneficial deal.
     
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