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  1. Cyreides
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    Jul 30, 2017
    It's something that bothers me a bit, especially with recent issues over it popping up since Trump came into office. I really really don't like that Transgender/Transexual is lumped in with Lesbian/Gay/Bisexual.

    Like.. I don't like it at all. I have nothing against Trans people, and think they deserve the same respect/rights as anyone else.. but I feel like the inclusion of Transgender rights as part of the Gay rights movement is honestly hurting the cause overall. It's a very distinct and separate issue. Just looking at the acronym is enough to annoy me.

    LGBT

    One of those things is very obviously not like the other. Yet they're lumped together. Why in the f--- lol

    Dunno why I'm posting this, but I'm bored, and I kept seeing s--- about this kind of thing pop up in my nighttime reading so I thought I'd see what you all thought. Specifically, what more liberal members here think, like @Enigma etc.

    And I want to reiterate, I have no problem with trans people/their rights movement, but it's just oddly tacked onto the gay rights movement and undeniably hurting it at this point.
     
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  2. 1999
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    There's a lot of weird s--- being added on like the 'No gender' gender, like what the f--- is that gender wasn't invented by the government you can't just declare you don't have one its preexisting
     
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  3. Cyreides
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    Also, preemptively: this ain't a thread to come circlejerk hate about transgender people or w.e nonsense, so keep that s--- to yourself.
     
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    :lebcry:I wasn't hating on transgender people
     
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  5. Cyreides
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    I wasn't trying to imply that, I'm just preempting that s--- rn, cause Ik this being s80, some people are gonna come in and read this and go "yeah, f--- trannies!"
     
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    I'm lost on the point tbh. It's all based on sexuality at the end of the day. Gender is apart of sexuality. You sexually identify yourself as a male, no? Gay rights is a movement moreso about the freedom of sexuality in general, imo.

    I understand you tho. Spread love doh
     
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  7. Cyreides
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    I get what you mean by this, but.... I still feel like this is conflating two very distinct issues

    like on the surface it might seem reasonable to lump it together, and might've made more sense at one point, but really they're not the same, and the fights for each are different

    and so different to the point where it's at times negatively reflecting on LGBs
     
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    never really thought about it like that i guess it is pretty weird

    if i were gay or bi or trans or w.e id remove myself as much as possible from that whole crowd though, opportunistic weirdos
     
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    Two different issues rooted by the same dilemma - your sexuality.

    At the end of the day, n----- they gay.
     
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    Cunner belter skelter

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    gender identity doesnt necessarily have anything to do with your sexual preference though
     
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    that's the thing though, they're not always

    and like

    i think reducing it down to sexuality sort of fails as an argument since

    LGB = who you're attracted to

    T = what gender you identify w/

    and it incorrectly implies that all LGB are likely trans or w.e, or that all T people are gay or something. this isn't the case, but a lot of people on the outside of things who already don't hold very good opinions of us all see it that way because it's all lumped together
     
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    Irony

    And i am using the term irony correctly here
     
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  13. Antman
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    I just think it's just a means for a community. If that makes sense
     
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    HOLY f--- TURN ON THE NEWS ELLEN IS BEHEADING TRANS PEOPLE AND VOWING TO REMOVE THE T IN LGBT
     
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    What is being a gender anymore
     
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  16. Charlie Work
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    The new term is LGBTQA+. Lesbian, Gay, Bi, Trans, Queer, Asexual, and everything else. Seriously.
     
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    :shmurda:
     
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    Anyways, I'd say trans got lumped together with the others because the people who would oppress those groups lump them together. I was talking about Trump's position on trans military personal with somebody the other day and it took about 3 minutes before they employed the same "but what if people f--- dogs" dumb s--- people say about homosexuality.
     
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    Because back in my day guys that s----d d-ck had the courtesy to dress like girls too
     
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  20. Lucy
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    How do you know this? are you a TQA+?
     
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