Mar 20, 2018

So I watched Murder Rap: Inside The Biggie & Tupac Murders a couple of years ago but revisited it a few days ago. I also tried to corroborate the story through several different interviews on YouTube and it seems like that's really how it went down. Tupac was murdered by Crips retaliating for the jumping of Orlando Anderson at the MGM that night. Orlando Anderson almost definitely being the shooter himself. Through my research I became interested in how or why Tupac got into the situation he was in (murdered due to g--- affiliation). One of the videos that spurred me to was Jada Pinkett talking about Tupac and her relationship with him. She said the Tupac she knew was not the one everyone else knew and even kind of implied that when they first met he was kind of square... here:



Here's a video of a 17 year old Tupac in high school also:



However, it seems he was a very complex character and as he got older he began to affiliate himself with the wrong people. It's difficult to tell when exactly this happened though. In 1993 he shot 2 undercover police officers (he wasn't aware they were undercover though) so he was definitely going down a more violent path before he joined Death Row and became associated with Suge Knight and The Mob.

To me it seems like as Tupac got involved with music he got more involved with gangs and crime in general. Which is really sad because obviously at that point he had made it. Gangs and crime are for people who aren't successful. It's like Chris Brown saying he's a blood now after reaching fame and fortune. It's more of a fashion statement. The lifestyle isn't a fashion statement to real gangsters. It's something they become at a very early age due to a poor living environment.

Here's the Murder Rap documentary below if anyone's interested... It produces a lot of solid evidence and is the creation of Greg Harding who worked on the case.




I also want to post this video of Crooked I talking about Tupac as a lyricist and say that I totally agree. I don't like Crooked I's music myself but I think he makes very good points. I don't understand how you could say Tupac isn't a lyricist at all.



Overall... I'm just interested in what you guys know/think you know about his story. When did he go through the transformation that he did? Why? It seemed as though he genuinely could have grown into so much more but he never got the chance because his life was cut short.

 

Mar 20, 2018

Didn't expect much discussion because of the demographic but thought I might get at least one reply lol

 

Mar 20, 2018

He was the grs of rap #r.i.p.

 

Mar 20, 2018

nah but srsly i cant get myself to read and care about pac rn lol

am i a bad hiphop fan now?

 

Mar 20, 2018

He's that rapper that got the best rapper of all time killed

 

Mar 20, 2018

Overrated imo

 

Mar 20, 2018

1. Busta Rhymes
2. Missy Elliot
3. Ludacris
4. Azealia Banks
5. M.I.A.
6. Nelly
7. Lil Wayne
8. Smino
9. Twista
10. Goldlink

2 hits huh?

 

Mar 20, 2018

 

Mar 20, 2018

Slay Z is fire too, The Big Big Beat a classic

 

Mar 20, 2018

Rest in Peace Tupac Shakur and Prince Rogers Nelson.

 

Mar 20, 2018

GRS probably

 

Mar 20, 2018

Pac grew up in acting school. That's all that needs to be said. His gangster persona was largely an act

 

Mar 20, 2018

I agree. That said, just because someone isn't a gangster doesn't mean they're not about it. He shot two undercover cops. He was the first to jump on Orlando. He obviously wasn't a b----.

I wish there was a genuine biopic on him or something though. Not aware of any documentaries that capture who he really was (maybe point me in the right direction?) and the movie that came out about him was apparently really bad and not particularly accurate. I saw Jada Pinkett say she was going to write a book and explain who he was to her and their relationship better someday which I would love if she ever does. A lot of people are only interested in making money off him or painting him as a gangster. The fact that he went from being a real grounded/promising student to someone trying to prove himself (appears so anyway) as a gangster is puzzling and really sad. It's the much more interesting part of the story. Seems he really could have done a lot of good in the world if he was given the chance to grow as a person. He was only 25.

 

Mar 20, 2018

No doubt. Being "real" or about it isnt limited to being a g--- b-----r. We definitely deserve an accurate, pure biopic but im afraid its not gonna happen after Afeni died. Im still mad that the All Eyez on Me movie was so bad

 

Mar 20, 2018

*joke about unfinished s---*

 

Mar 20, 2018

He got shot in 94 at Quad studio and used that as a platform to go from Keep Ya Head Up to Hit Em Up, portraying himself as someone he was not. he wanted to live the thug life like Suge and when given the opportunity in Vegas he did, and unlike beating up a rapper, beating on a known g--- member got himself killed and so he in reality got his just desserts and deserved it.