Death of autotune and "mumble rap"

Started by Michael Myers, May 4, 2019, in Music Add to Reading List

  1. Michael Myers
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    Michael Myers The Boogeyman Is Coming

    May 4, 2019
    First of all, this is NOT a contest as in who is better.

    This morning I was listening to music and suddenly Jay's DOA came on.

    Listening to the lyrics,

    'Put your skirts back down'

    "I know we facing a recession
    But the music y'all making going make it the great depression"

    "This ain't a number one record
    This is practically assault with a deadly weapon"

    And then he makes several comments on other songs (like Put On remix) about the current wave.

    Jay went at autotune, eminem went at """mumble rap"""

    I honestly can't really remember (also wasn't on a forum back then) how people reacted when Jay did that. Eminem gets both praise and s--- for going against it, how did you feel about Jay in 2009?
     
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  2. Judas Black
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    Judas Black The Dark Vegan

    May 4, 2019
    To be fair rap wasn't as bad in 2009 as it is now, Hip-Hop is on life support these days

    The corny s--- that comes out these days isn't for me, but it's all good to each his own, but I'd be lying if I said it isn't garbage

    Kids today don't give a d--- about lyrics and it shows. "yOU cAnT tUrN uP tO LyRiCs"
     
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  3. Bizzle
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    May 4, 2019
    100% agree. Bad bunny, maluma, j balvin, etc.. have been blowing up and a lot of the kids have NO idea what they’re saying but love the catchy songs.
     
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  4. Judas Black
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    Judas Black The Dark Vegan

    May 4, 2019
    Yea, if that's what they like, kudos to them, it just isn't my thing, never will be
     
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  5. Michael Myers
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    Michael Myers The Boogeyman Is Coming

    May 4, 2019
    Tbh,

    Jay went at autotune. While I kinda agree it was overused it gave us 808&HB, tons of classic weezy verses and lets be real Tpain is a goat. I would also put autotune 2009 rap over most of the new wave right now. Also has to do w age I guess.. but I do like several.

    But my point is, jay went at the current wave kinda in the same way eminem did/does in 2018/2019. Obviously eminem is doing it because he's mad at the critics for criticizing him, but still.
     
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    May 4, 2019
    I don’t mind the music in the appropriate setting. I’d be lying if I said I don’t love good beats and catchy songs. But I also have an appreciation for real hip hop as well.. but now days it seems like you have to pick one or the other
     
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    Michael Myers The Boogeyman Is Coming

    May 4, 2019
    They sing and rap in spanish bro lmao. I think @Asmodeus means lil yatchy lil xan etc
     
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    Michael Myers The Boogeyman Is Coming

    May 4, 2019
    I LOVE spanish music btw. Dunno all that they are saying but catchy stuff is always a plus for me.

    Old town road is amazing btw (not spanish) for that reason @Asmodeus how u feel about that song.
     
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    Judas Black The Dark Vegan

    May 4, 2019
    Oh, definitely T-Pain is great, I quite enjoy his "69" track
     
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    May 4, 2019
    I’m saying in general the music that’s popular right now doesn’t necessarily need to have any lyrics that people understand or relate too. I guess you can go back to any time and make that same argument. And like I said I’d be lying if I said I didn’t like that music I always appreciate good music whether it’s the production or the lyrics. It’s subjective
     
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    Judas Black The Dark Vegan

    May 4, 2019
    It is what it is..lol I don't really care for it, but it's catchy I guess

    I like real Country..lol nothing against it though, I understand his hustle and it worked
     
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  12. Michael Myers
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    Michael Myers The Boogeyman Is Coming

    May 4, 2019
    Yes exactly my point. That is why I'm curious how people thought about Jay when he went against it kinda in the same way eminem does it right now
     
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    May 4, 2019
    Yeah I always wonder that with even sports or movies cuz it seems like 2009 was just yesterday but social media has made such a crazy impact on everything and everyone now. You mentioned that autotune gave us 808’s and I can’t imagine social media hating on that. There’s not much about it to hate on lol
     
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    Michael Myers The Boogeyman Is Coming

    May 4, 2019
    Yeah the thing I like about it, I only have the BRC remix btw, is that lil nas x is doing typical country stuff on it (talking about horses cowboys etc) and billy ray is bragging about sports cars. Love how they reversed the rap-country roles in the song. Also its kind of a new ""genre"" since mostly we get rappers on country songs, now its the other way around. Going through the old town road (basically ignoring the main road and paving your own way) is a nice metaphore for that.

    Aside from it being catchy af there's a lot more to it imo.
     
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    May 4, 2019
    There will always be a disconnect between older and newer gens. I remember reading an interview with Pharaoh Monch who said he had old heads telling him Organized Konfusion was trash. Old heads used to s--- on Lil Wayne when he came out, 50 Cent went he came out. It'll never end. Yachty and Pump will probably be shi--ing on new rappers in 2030.

    I don't think I understood it in 2009 when Jay dropped DOA, but looking back (and as much as I love Hov), the sentiment behind the song sucks. And what did it achieve anyway? Same goes for Em's tirade against mumble rappers imo. I think Jay would have got similar backlash if he dropped DOA (or a modern equivalent) today.
     
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    Michael Myers The Boogeyman Is Coming

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    Funny thing is also that DOA was the first single of BP3. "This aint for Itunes, not for singalongs!!!"

    Then he drops empire state of mind, run this town and other pop songs on BP3. If that aren't sing alongs I dunno what they are lmao.

    Same w Eminem .... 'real rap' - Recovery, Revival.. lol.

    Both kinda made up for it with 444 and Kamikazr but still, both were/are hypocrites
     
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    May 5, 2019
    mumble crap sucks. i prefer intelligent rappers like logic and eminem cus theyre not ghetto and use proper grammar
     
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    May 5, 2019
    Old Town Road slander will not be tolerated but I’m going to take this opportunity to say Lil Nas X is taking too long with his releases and it’s getting old real quick. Track already got ran into the ground and he still hasn’t released the music video
     
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    Lol Miguel Myers
     
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    I want the thug remix tbh. Song w billy ray is dope tho
     
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