Why isn't Jay-Z respected worldwide like Eminem and Tupac are?

Started by Kujaku67, Sep 23, 2020, in Music Add to Reading List

  1. Kujaku67
    Posts: 345
    Likes: 750
    Joined: Jul 9, 2020

    Sep 23, 2020
    Jay is the 3rd best selling album OAT in terms of album sales and he sold a bunch of singles. He's highly skilled, has a great career, and definitely deserves to be in a top 5 DOA conversation even though he's not my personal fave.

    But I noticed people overseas generally don't buy into Jay the same way they do Eminem or Tupac. h---, I think Kanye, Drake, Wayne, and even 50 Cent have more stans worldwide than him.

    They might know who he is partly because of the Beyonce/Rihanna connection but the actual stanning of Jay-Z feels minimal outside the U.S. Even Nas(my personal GOAT) seems to get more respect, albeit Jay is much more popular.

    But why is that the case though?
     
    #1
    3
    Ordinary Joel, aleeex1923 and Rodamon like this.
    3
    Ordinary Joel, aleeex1923 and Rodamon like this.
    May 23, 2022
  2. DKC
    Posts: 22,552
    Likes: 78,167
    Joined: Nov 23, 2014

    DKC admin of SXN80, notorious marxist messageboard

    Sep 23, 2020
    He is?
     
    May 23, 2022
  3. icecube
    Posts: 8,718
    Likes: 17,619
    Joined: Feb 15, 2011
    Location: London

    icecube West Coast is the Best Coast

    Sep 23, 2020
    He is.
     
    #3
    6
    Slyk, Trackz, Wreckless and 3 others like this.
    6
    Slyk, Trackz, Wreckless and 3 others like this.
    May 23, 2022
  4. Kujaku67
    Posts: 345
    Likes: 750
    Joined: Jul 9, 2020

    Sep 23, 2020
    Perhaps I meant to say loved. Jay doesn't seem loved or stanned by many people outside the U.S. like Em/Pac are.
     
    #4
    1
    Ordinary Joel likes this.
    1
    Ordinary Joel likes this.
    May 23, 2022
  5. Ricky
    Posts: 36,921
    Likes: 93,381
    Joined: Jul 15, 2015

    Ricky HIP-HOP CEO ™

    Sep 23, 2020
    He is.
     
    #5
    2
    Wreckless and Ordinary Joel like this.
    2
    Wreckless and Ordinary Joel like this.
    May 23, 2022
  6. DKC
    Posts: 22,552
    Likes: 78,167
    Joined: Nov 23, 2014

    DKC admin of SXN80, notorious marxist messageboard

    Sep 23, 2020
    Jay is the 4th best selling rap artist worldwide after Eminem, Drake, and Kanye. He's definitely loved and respected lol.
     
    #6
    1
    Ordinary Joel likes this.
    1
    Ordinary Joel likes this.
    May 23, 2022
  7. Thy
    Posts: 11,049
    Likes: 20,788
    Joined: Jun 28, 2015

    Thy 000000

    Sep 23, 2020
    looks like you've been living under a rock buddy
     
    #7
    3
    Jay Zeus, Wreckless and Ordinary Joel like this.
    3
    Jay Zeus, Wreckless and Ordinary Joel like this.
    May 23, 2022
  8. icecube
    Posts: 8,718
    Likes: 17,619
    Joined: Feb 15, 2011
    Location: London

    icecube West Coast is the Best Coast

    Sep 23, 2020
    He is.
     
    #8
    3
    Jay Zeus, Wreckless and Ordinary Joel like this.
    3
    Jay Zeus, Wreckless and Ordinary Joel like this.
    May 23, 2022
  9. The Lyricvore
    Posts: 10,627
    Likes: 13,432
    Joined: Nov 28, 2014

    Sep 23, 2020
    I honestly don’t know any jay z fans.
     
    #9
    8
    Mudkip, Slyk, BlueWorldOrder and 5 others like this.
    8
    Mudkip, Slyk, BlueWorldOrder and 5 others like this.
    May 23, 2022
  10. Winter
    Posts: 5,857
    Likes: 13,515
    Joined: Nov 24, 2014

    Winter Super Comfy

    Sep 23, 2020
    Jay pops up in more or less every top 5 discussion, I’d say he’s already there. Obviously there’s the weird crowd who think rap fell off after 1995 and anyone who’s ever made a hit is an irredeemable sellout, but that’s a minority, Jay’s been consistently successful for his whole career
     
    #10
    3
    Ordinary Joel, DKC and Ricky like this.
    3
    Ordinary Joel, DKC and Ricky like this.
    May 23, 2022
  11. Ricky
    Posts: 36,921
    Likes: 93,381
    Joined: Jul 15, 2015

    Ricky HIP-HOP CEO ™

    Sep 23, 2020
    Rappaz been mumbling since 99 b!!!!
     
    #11
    3
    Jay Zeus, Ordinary Joel and Winter like this.
    3
    Jay Zeus, Ordinary Joel and Winter like this.
    May 23, 2022
  12. joeyp363
    Posts: 14,796
    Likes: 23,109
    Joined: Feb 15, 2011

    Sep 23, 2020
    Cuz he is trash
     
    #12
    1
    Ordinary Joel likes this.
    1
    Ordinary Joel likes this.
    May 23, 2022
  13. Worm
    Posts: 14,100
    Likes: 56,659
    Joined: Feb 15, 2011
    Location: New Jersey

    Worm Big Perm Big Worm

    Sep 23, 2020
     
    #13
    1
    Ordinary Joel likes this.
    1
    Ordinary Joel likes this.
    May 23, 2022
  14. Worm
    Posts: 14,100
    Likes: 56,659
    Joined: Feb 15, 2011
    Location: New Jersey

    Worm Big Perm Big Worm

    Sep 23, 2020
    Why is sex not respected worldwide like masturbating is?
    :thinkinghmmm:
     
    #14
    1
    Ordinary Joel likes this.
    1
    Ordinary Joel likes this.
    May 23, 2022
  15. icecube
    Posts: 8,718
    Likes: 17,619
    Joined: Feb 15, 2011
    Location: London

    icecube West Coast is the Best Coast

    Sep 23, 2020
    [​IMG]
     
    May 23, 2022
  16. Michael Myers
    Posts: 37,403
    Likes: 74,939
    Joined: Feb 28, 2011

    Michael Myers The Boogeyman Is Coming

    Sep 23, 2020
    Greatest rapper of all time !!!
     
    #16
    2
    Trackz and Ordinary Joel like this.
    2
    Trackz and Ordinary Joel like this.
    May 23, 2022
  17. Rodamon
    Posts: 2,133
    Likes: 2,947
    Joined: Mar 11, 2011

    Sep 23, 2020
    I am sorry but OP is right. For example in my country many people know Jay for Beyonce or Rihanna and consider him just a commercial sell out rapper.
     
    #17
    2
    Ordinary Joel and Michael Myers like this.
    2
    Ordinary Joel and Michael Myers like this.
    May 23, 2022
  18. Michael Myers
    Posts: 37,403
    Likes: 74,939
    Joined: Feb 28, 2011

    Michael Myers The Boogeyman Is Coming

    Sep 23, 2020
    Yes he is. In Holland he's not considered the best rapper or top 5 either

    Drake, tupac, eminem are mentioned more than him lol
     
    #18
    2
    Ordinary Joel and Rodamon like this.
    2
    Ordinary Joel and Rodamon like this.
    May 23, 2022
  19. DKC
    Posts: 22,552
    Likes: 78,167
    Joined: Nov 23, 2014

    DKC admin of SXN80, notorious marxist messageboard

    Sep 23, 2020
    What country do you live in out of curiosity?
     
    #19
    1
    Ordinary Joel likes this.
    1
    Ordinary Joel likes this.
    May 23, 2022
  20. DKC
    Posts: 22,552
    Likes: 78,167
    Joined: Nov 23, 2014

    DKC admin of SXN80, notorious marxist messageboard

    Sep 23, 2020
    Drake and Em are the two highest selling rappers of all time and 2Pac is one of the most lauded and famous artists ever because of his untimely death (and music of course but the east/west beef is something even your mom knows about). Them being more popular than jay z doesn’t mean he’s not popular, cuz the three you mentioned are more popular than virtually every other rapper in the world lol
     
    #20
    1
    Ordinary Joel likes this.
    1
    Ordinary Joel likes this.
    May 23, 2022