Why Do Feminists Cling So Desperately to False/Disproven Statistics?

Started by Kings, Feb 20, 2016, in Life Add to Reading List

  1. Kings
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    Seriously, every time I've asked a feminist what purpose they believe to have in the US, 9 times out of 10, their answers will include "women make 77¢ for every man's $1 for the same exact work" and "1/3,4,5,6 (they can never agree on this number, though all are false) women are r---d".

    Both of these seem to be their major "points", and both of these are blatant lies/misrepresentations. We have politicians who very well know better, parroting this disproven "wage-gap" nonsense, probably as a way of pandering to whiney, ignorant millennialis who'd rather play victim then do an ounce of research on anything they say.

    Furthermore, when the facts are laid out clearly for these irrational buffoons, you'd think they'd be happy... Right? The "discrimination" they whine about doesn't actually exist, you'd think they'd be ecstatic... Wouldn't you?

    Nope. They throw a f---ing tantrum. What is with this desperation to play victim, where it's nowhere near rational?
     
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    Key words making the claim false: "for the exact same work"
     
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    s---, some of the girls I work with make more than me
     
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    The problem I have with these vague studies is how unbelievably general they are.

    They aren't comparing male and females of the exact same job title, who work the exact same number of hours, with the same education, experience, and qualifications, who take equal time off.

    No, they're comparing ALL males, regardless of any of these factors, to ALL females, regardless of any of these factors. Taking into account the different choices men and women tend to make in regards to their careers, it becomes undeniably obvious that the gap is almost completely the result of choice.

    It's not "for the exact same work" in any little way. It's "in general". Comparing male doctors to female nurses, male lawyers to female teachers. Reaching the conclusion they do by these means, and representing it the way they do, is a blatant misrepresentation. To credit the gap completely to "discrimination" is just laughably false.
     
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    I have a stupid question

    If women are paid less for the same work

    Why don't companies just hire women
     
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    I've actually asked this to feminists who try passing this nonsense. I can't recall a single instance where I received a relevant answer.
     
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    Uh I think the point is that people want to increase the amount of women working traditionally "male" jobs like doctors and lawyers in order to close the wage gap. Obviously tumblr feminists/"i listen to beyonce" feminists who are too dumb to understand this are awful but it's just as cringe that so many men are so scared of equality that they desperately try to validate their sexism and deny that inequality exists by posing all feminism as this nazi-like tumblr-wave bs. Literally all "feminism" means is to believe that men and women should have equal rights and opportunities.
     
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    dig the new avy BC^
     
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    99% of sewerage workers are male, don't hear any feminists complaining about that.
     
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    wow amazing anecdotal evidence
     
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    A woman can never work a day in her life, get married, cry, get divorced, cry in court and run off with 70% of her husbands life earnings.
    No feminists whinging about this?

    Huge percentage of fathers that go through a divorce k--- themselves over no longer being able to see kids/not being able to afford to live.
    Still no feminism?
     
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    That'd be more believable if feminists weren't constantly claiming women are paid less for "the exact same work".

    Nothing is stopping women from becoming doctors, lawyers, etc. But women generally do not choose to do those kinds of jobs. They instead tend to choose lesser-paying career options, such as nursing and teaching.
     
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    Equal opportunity and equal outcome are two mutually exclusive concepts. We have equal opportunity already.
     
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    Thanks bud! Take everything in stride !
     
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    And since it's pretty obvious this gap is contributed to individual choice, and apparently everything must be 50/50; Are you going to be the one to dictate women's career choices for them? Or do you think the government should step in and make these choices for them? Since apparently women are incapable children who need others to step in and dictate what they should do, according to feminists (this being literally the only way to completely close a gap that exists due to choice, is to take away the choice).
     
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    But.... No one here is crediting the pay gap only to discrimination. The pay gap exists, it's a thing & we've come a very long way to closing it which is good. I wish for women to be able to thrive just as much as men do, wouldn't you agree? I'd love to see more women working in higher paying jobs rather than minimum wage jobs, wouldn't you? What's wrong with working towards that goal?

    Also, Pew Research Center is among the best of the best when it comes to their reports. Politicians on both sides of the political spectrum have used their reports to support whatever argument so they don't present any type of bias, or at least none that I've seen.

    If you really want feminist to shut up about the pay gap, how about the United States enters the 21st century and starts giving women paid maternity leave? That's a big reason why the pay gap exists.
     
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    The only way to completely close this gap would be to dictate women's choices for them, since women have a tenancy to pursue lesser paying careers. Are you going to be the one to tell women they're no longer allowed to pursue teaching and nursing, and must instead pursue engineering or law?

    The gap exists completely because of women's career choices. To imply there's a problem with their choices which must be changed sounds more misogynistic than just accepting that men and women make different choices.
     
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